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Planned volunteer-informant corps elicits '1984' fears
The Washington Times ^ | July 16, 2002 | Ellen Sorokin

Posted on 07/16/2002 2:07:42 AM PDT by ConservativeNewsNetwork

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:38:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

As part of the country's war against terrorism, the Bush administration by next month wants to recruit a million letter carriers, utility workers and others whose jobs allow them access to private homes into a contingent of organized government informants. The Terrorism Information and Prevention System (Operation TIPS), a national reporting pilot program, is scheduled to start next month in 10 cities, with 1 million informants

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 1984; bigbrother; homelanddefense; operationtips; policestate; waronterror
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Faulty math aside... I've got to wonder, is there anyone that actually supports this citizen's spy league? It's not very often that conservative groups and the ACLU are against something the feds are trying to sneak past the American people. Even if the 'spies' don't get any extra legal rights, that won't stop millions of people from being a bit more nosey than they should, i.e. computer repairmen looking through your files more than they normally would, in the interest of 'homeland security.'
1 posted on 07/16/2002 2:07:42 AM PDT by ConservativeNewsNetwork
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To: ConservativeNewsNetwork
The irony is that our founding fathers wanted every US citizen to be vigilant.
2 posted on 07/16/2002 2:29:40 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: ConservativeNewsNetwork
As usual in such matters, it isn't the basic concept of a "heads-up" citizenry that bothers me; it's the obvious and likely opportunity for abuse by the Government.
3 posted on 07/16/2002 2:31:02 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: ConservativeNewsNetwork

This program has been around for years. What is the big deal?

Oh right, President Bush is involved, so suddenly the Democrats are all worried about Orwell's 1984. Give me a break.

4 posted on 07/16/2002 2:36:00 AM PDT by Hunble
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To: Hunble
There is a difference between a bunch of private citizens getting together and keeping a watch on their neighborhood, and the Government actively recruiting people on their own payroll to abuse their access to private homes in order to repot all suspicious activity to the Government (and be rewarded for their ratting!)

If you aren't alarmed by this, then you just don't understand the situation.

TIPS will Turn us Into a Police State.

What's wrong with just calling the FBI if you spot a suspicious character? Why are we trying to implement a new program when we haven't even TREID to fix the old, broken program. 9/11 would have never happened had the FBI and CIA not been comatose at the wheel.
5 posted on 07/16/2002 3:25:46 AM PDT by WyldKard
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
The irony is that our founding fathers wanted every US citizen to be vigilant. … against the government – not one’s fellow citizens!
6 posted on 07/16/2002 4:25:19 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: WyldKard
TIPS will Turn us Into a Police State.

We are already a police state … this is a consolidation of the state’s power against dissent.

These Stasi will all act like petty dictators:
Don’t like his neighbor’s dog – turn him in as a terrorist.
Don’t agree with a Free Republic post – turn him in, too!

7 posted on 07/16/2002 4:32:46 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: WyldKard
Operation TIPS is one part of President Bush's new volunteer Citizen Corps program that urges Americans to keep their neighborhoods safe. The program is described on the government Web site www.citizencorps.gov.

If you bother to look at the www.citizencorps.gov/watch.html website, you will see that it is the same Neighborhood Watch program that has been around for the last 30 years.

The Neighborhood Watch Program is a highly successful effort which has been in existence for some thirty years in cities across America. It provides a unique infrastructure that brings together local officials, law enforcement and citizens for the protection of communities.

In cities around the country, neighbors for three decades have banded together to create these "watch" programs. They understand that the active participation of neighborhood residents is a critical element in community safety - not through vigilantism, but simply through a willingness to look out for suspicious activity in their neighborhood, and report that activity to the police and to each other. In doing so, residents take a major step toward reclaiming high-crime neighborhoods, as well as making people in all areas of a city or town feel more secure and less fearful.


8 posted on 07/16/2002 5:53:12 AM PDT by Hunble
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To: Hunble
You still...don't...get it.

This isn't the SAME as the Neighborhood Watch that has been going on for the last 30 years. This is a police state expansion of that program. They are encouraging people who have the ability to go into peoples homes to spy on them and report on what they find. What happens if you hire someone to come in and fix your furnace, and he sees you have a book on your table critical of President Clinton? If a democrat is in the White House, you might find yourself turned in to Homeland Security for "dissent". If you don't understand why this is such a scary thing, after reading everyone's discussion here, then you just aren't ever going to understand. Which is a sad thing.

"When People fear the Government, it's Tyranny. When the Goverment fears the people, it's Liberty" - Ben Franklin.

"Government is like fire: a useful servant and a fearful Master." - George Washington.
9 posted on 07/16/2002 6:07:48 AM PDT by WyldKard
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Neighborhood Watch Program header graphic  
The "eyes and ears" of local communities.
 
 
 
Citizen Corps logo saying, Learn more and join today.   The Neighborhood Watch Program is a highly successful effort which has been in existence for some thirty years in cities across America. It provides a unique infrastructure that brings together local officials, law enforcement and citizens for the protection of communities.

In cities around the country, neighbors for three decades have banded together to create these "watch" programs. They understand that the active participation of neighborhood residents is a critical element in community safety - not through vigilantism, but simply through a willingness to look out for suspicious activity in their neighborhood, and report that activity to the police and to each other. In doing so, residents take a major step toward reclaiming high-crime neighborhoods, as well as making people in all areas of a city or town feel more secure and less fearful.

In the aftermath of September 11, 2001, the need for strengthening and securing our communities has become even more critical. President Bush has announced that, with the help of the National Sheriffs' Association, the Neighborhood Watch Program will be taking on a new significance. Community residents will be provided with information which will enable them to recognize signs of potential terrorist activity, and to know how to report that activity, making these residents a critical element in the detection, prevention and disruption of terrorism.

We will be publishing information which will assist citizens in organizing Neighborhood Watch Programs, knowing what to look for in the community, and understanding what to do if they observe suspicious activity. Under the umbrella of the newly-created Citizen Preparedness Councils, the Neighborhood Watch Programs will help to distribute useful information circulated by the Councils and other agencies.

Many neighborhoods already have Neighborhood Watch programs, which are vibrant and effective. For those that do not, this new initiative may provide the incentive for them to participate in an important new effort on behalf of their friends and neighbors, as well as the nation as a whole.

Learn more by visiting the Neighborhood Watch homepage.

Be part of the Neighborhood Watch Program.
Volunteer now!


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10 posted on 07/16/2002 6:21:00 AM PDT by Hunble
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To: Hunble
we are At War now
do no Wrong, nothing to Fear
it's for The Children
11 posted on 07/16/2002 6:23:15 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: bimbo
Suspicious activity should immediately be reported to the FBI
12 posted on 07/16/2002 6:53:03 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Truckers Ready to Fight Terrorism
13 posted on 07/16/2002 6:56:37 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: CheneyChick; vikingchick; Victoria Delsoul; WIMom; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k; Snow Bunny; ..
Operation TIPS
"A national system for
concerned workers to report
suspicious activity."
 
 
Citizen Corps -- Learn more and join today!   Operation TIPS - the Terrorism Information and Prevention System - will be a nationwide program giving millions of American truckers, letter carriers, train conductors, ship captains, utility employees, and others a formal way to report suspicious terrorist activity. Operation TIPS, a project of the U.S. Department of Justice, will begin as a pilot program in 10 cities that will be selected.

Operation TIPS, involving 1 million workers in the pilot stage, will be a national reporting system that allows these workers, whose routines make them well-positioned to recognize unusual events, to report suspicious activity. Every participant in this new program will be given an Operation TIPS information sticker to be affixed to the cab of their vehicle or placed in some other public location so that the toll-free reporting number is readily available.

Everywhere in America, a concerned worker can call a toll-free number and be connected directly to a hotline routing calls to the proper law enforcement agency or other responder organizations when appropriate.

Operation TIPS is coming in August 2002.
Volunteer now!


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And what are the limits, I wonder... will Operation TIPs only be used for terrorist activity?

Try and imagine someone like the Clintons having this power.

Time to paraphrase that old aphorism of Ben Franklin... we have a republic, if we can keep it.




14 posted on 07/16/2002 7:01:53 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Hunble
Your actions are suspicious.

Turn yourself in and save me the trouble.

What? You say you're not doing anything suspicious? They told me that you guys would say that. That proves it.

15 posted on 07/16/2002 7:05:32 AM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: Sabertooth
Yiks
16 posted on 07/16/2002 7:07:04 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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Yikes indeedy. How long before being a freeper or gun-owner becomes 'suspicious'? It already *is* in NJ, just wait till they elect Hillary (and they will, trust me...they're still in love with her up here...)
17 posted on 07/16/2002 7:12:01 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Sabertooth; ConservativeNewsNetwork; Hunble
THIS IS AN
ARMED
NEIGHBORHOOD

CRIMINALS
BEWARE!


18 posted on 07/16/2002 7:12:03 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: Sabertooth
Just more of our tax dollars being flushed down the toilet.
19 posted on 07/16/2002 7:16:34 AM PDT by Registered
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To: Sabertooth; KentuckyWoman
Sounds like J. Edgar Hoover (along with the Ghost of A. Hitler) has got his 'Drean' to come true . . .

May God Bless American - just one more time.....maybe then we'll be able to stop plans like this and whatever else that GW gets from the Untied Nations..........


20 posted on 07/16/2002 7:19:26 AM PDT by Alabama_Wild_Man
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