AIR TRAVELER ID REQUIREMENT CHALLENGED

CRYPTOME.org ^ | July 18, 2002 | Gilmore vs. Ashcroft

[E. Pluribus Unum]

You totalitarian government wimps are all alike. Anything the government demands in the name of "safety" or "the children" is fine with you.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

You totalitarian government wimps are all alike. Anything the government demands in the name of "safety" or "the children" is fine with you.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

You totalitarian government wimps are all alike. Anything the government demands in the name of "safety" or "the children" is fine with you.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Where would you like to meet?

[TankerKC]

Hey. I got you the first time.

Again, you don't know a thing about me or what I believe. You are completely off target. Give it a rest.

[TankerKC]

You an an angry man, aren't you. Once again, you have proven that you have no grasp on reality. Settle down and talk issues.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

The issue is that airports are the incubator for the police state to come. The right to travel freely without accounting for your whereabouts is a fundamental tenet of freedom. Without it, we are all prisoners.

Why do the minimum-wage airport gestapo need to know who you are if they are going to x-ray you and do a body-cavity search?

Because the government has bigger plans. Much bigger plans. Where will you draw the line in the name of "security?" An ankle-bracelet with a GPS device that allows your whereabouts to be tracked at all times? The only people who would object to that, after all, are people who have something to hide, right?

It makes me so angry that people who have lived all their lives in a free country will have no idea what they had until it is gone. I'm old enough that it won't really make that much difference to me. I pray to God that you are young enough to suffer the full consequences of your smarmy self-rightteousness someday when it is too late.

[TankerKC]

Look, I'm gonna tell you once last time: You know nothing about me. You have no basis for calling me self-righteousness, to wish bad things on me, and, especially, to wish things jammed in my a$$ (as suggested in your since removed post).

I posted to make the point that this article was written in a sensationalized style. That’s it.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I posted to make the point that this article was written in a sensationalized style. That’s it.

Oh, you were commenting on the style rather than the substance? Very shallow of you. Thanks for your time.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I can just see your smarmy lips swishing when you say "your since-removed post." I bet you loved being hall monitor in grade school, didn't you?

[TankerKC]

Fuck you.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I won't be running to the hall monitor. Unlike you.

[realpatriot71]

Well if you cannot give me any reasons why your position is the superier one, then all I can say is that I tried to discuss this. Your debate skills belong in the third grade. Have a nice day.

[dennisw]

I debate and post on my own terms, not your losertarian terms ....... FLUSH! Go listen to yer Grateful Dead tapes and fire up a bowl cowardly loser.

[dennisw]

I debate and post on my own terms, not your losertarian terms. Go listen to yer Grateful Dead tapes and fire up a bowl, cowardly loser. Real men make societies, protect their women, and restrain indulgent ego trips. And show ID at airports.

....... FLUSH!

[Redcloak]

Uuhhhh... If it's a "secret rule", then why do they ask for ID every time I board a plane? I mean, if it were a secret, then doesn't asking me for ID kinda let the cat out of the bag? It's not much of a "secret rule" when everybody knows you have to show ID.

BTW: If the airlines themselves make it their company policy to ask for ID, then any rule, secret or otherwise, is moot.

[realpatriot71]

I debate and post on my own terms, not your losertarian terms.

Yes, it appears so, but it is quite sad that these terms were written on a gradeschool playground, and for whatever reason your real (ha!) "manliness" has seen fit to let them stay there.

Your posts have been nothing but ad hominem fallacy (look it up). If you cannot even support the underlying principle of your position in a reasonable and logical manner that can be discussed, why do you even post? To disrupt?

BTW - I hate the grateful dead and I haven't smoked a bowl since I started medical school - go figure . . .