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Freeper Reading Club?
Self | July 19, 2002 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 07/19/2002 4:54:20 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

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To: Illbay
ping. I forgot to include your name in the post before this one. Sorry.

Mrs K
61 posted on 07/20/2002 2:16:34 AM PDT by cgk
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To: cgk; PJ-Comix; Admin Moderator; John Robinson
Yeah, that'd be fun.

But in addition, may I suggest that we add a NEW FORUM to FR, called "FR READING CLUB"? That would allow us to quickly go in and see what authors or works that others are reading, and choose which of those threads to read/reply to. And we wouldn't have to wade through all the other threads on "General".

PJ, you have a lot of "stroke" on FR. Can you help this happen?

62 posted on 07/20/2002 7:05:29 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Betty Jane
Add me to the list, please.
63 posted on 07/20/2002 7:32:00 AM PDT by sinclair
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To: PJ-Comix
I read it years ago and loved it, I'll be glad to read it again. Count me in!
64 posted on 07/20/2002 7:39:40 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: PJ-Comix
All right. I'll join. Shane? Hmmmm. Okay. Good idea. Eclectic choice. (Maybe for the next one we can all read "Edna the Whip Lady" by Anonymous?) parsy the adventurous.
65 posted on 07/20/2002 8:20:18 AM PDT by parsifal
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To: PJ-Comix
I'd add several by Milan Kundera.He's a delight, both surreal and a cuting edge critic of socialist dogma.Try Life is Elsewhere and the Book of Laughter and Forgetting.The Joke is also highly recommended.
66 posted on 07/20/2002 8:28:45 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: PJ-Comix
Thank you for doing this, what a great idea, I was headed to the library to get "Starship Troopers" today anyway, so I'll get "Shane" while I'm there.

As far as Rand books is concerned, I find that people that read a lot of different books in their lives like "Fountainhead" better than "Atlas", because it is more well written. But let me tell you, from a person that does not read much, and since I read Atlas first, I found "The Fountainhead " boring as hell, at least compaired to "Atlas". I'll never waste time to read "Fountainhead" again, but I have re-read "Atlas" three times.

67 posted on 07/20/2002 8:40:39 AM PDT by bigjoesaddle
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To: bigjoesaddle
Rush Drummer Breaks Silence About Family Tragedy In New Book

Neil Peart pens 'Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road,' which delves into his recovery after losing daughter, wife.

by Jon Wiederhorn

Neil Peart
Photo: Brooke Ismach/WireImage

Since 1997, Rush drummer Neil Peart has been tight-lipped about the tragic deaths of his 19-year-old daughter Selena and wife Jackie, both of whom passed away within a 10-month period. Now he's pouring out his heart about the pain and hopelessness he endured and the road he took to recovery in his new book, "Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road," which is being published by Canada's ECW Press.

The book features new prose, text from journal entries and letters to friends, providing a personal and emotional day-by-day account of the 14 dark months that followed his wife's death, and how the support and companionship of friends helped him through the bleakest of times.

At first, Peart was despondent and even contemplated taking his own life.

"In the days following Selena's death, I had learned for myself how a sunny day could actually seem dark, the sun totally wrong, and how the world around me, the busy lives of all those oblivious strangers, could seem so futile and unreal — as futile and unreal as what passed for my own life," he wrote.

A rational man who had asked a multitude of questions in his own lyrics and always came up with eloquent answers, Peart was crippled by his horrific misfortune. The guy who always exhibited empathy for his fellow man was suddenly wracked with agony every time he saw people unburdened by such tragedy.

"It was hard for me to accept that fate could be so unjust, that other people's lives should remain unscarred by the kind of evil that had been visited upon me," he wrote. "The big question, 'why?' was a ceaseless torment, as my brain struggled for meaning (Is this a punishment? A judgement? A curse?), and when I saw other people with their children or with their lovers and mates, or even just apparently enjoying life, it wasn't so much ill will that moved me, as it was jealousy, resentment and a sense of cruel injustice."

With the lack of answers to his aching questions, Peart, an avid motorcyclist, hopped on his BMW R1100GS motorcycle and rode 55,000 miles over the next 14 months in an effort to find some meaning in his life. He traveled from Quebec to Alaska, down the Canadian and American coasts, through the West to Mexico and Belize, and then back to Quebec. During his travels he wrote about the minutiae of his life, from the most mundane to the profound. He chronicled conversations with people he met along the way, places he visited and the multitude of feelings he experienced.

"Once I went speeding past an old couple, and smiled as I imagined their conversation: him grumbling about me, and her telling him not to be such an old grouch," he wrote. "Then, suddenly I was in tears, thinking, 'I'll never get to be a grumpy old grandpa!' "

As much as the endless driving cleared his mind, it was the compassion of others that proved most healing.

"I felt affection and gratitude not only for their help, but for their understanding, for simply knowing what I had endured, feeling for me, and demanding nothing more than I continue to live."

By the end of his journey, Peart discovered that, as another musician said many years before, "All you need is love."

"Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road" is Peart's second non-musical book. His first, "The Masked Rider: Cycling in West Africa" was released in Canada in 1999. He also co-authored "Drum Techniques of Rush" with Bill Wheeler and wrote "More Drum Techniques of Rush (More Drum Superstar Series)."

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I knew Neil had gone through some serious dark times. I know he checked himself into a hospital early on. This man went through hell. They started selling this book at the shows for their new Vapor Trails tour the shows after I went to in Charlotte and Va. Beach. Check them out and the new album. An audio guide basically to the book except he has the rest of Rush backing him up.

The one line that just choked me up was this one:

"Once I went speeding past an old couple, and smiled as I imagined their conversation: him grumbling about me, and her telling him not to be such an old grouch," he wrote. "Then, suddenly I was in tears, thinking, 'I'll never get to be a grumpy old grandpa!' ">>>>

That just got to me so much. Neil has always been very reclusive and protective of his personal and family life. God Bless this man for all he has gone through and has found the strength to record and tour again for not only himself...but us the fans.

68 posted on 07/20/2002 11:17:56 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: PJ-Comix
All right smart a**! You now owe me $43.62! I went to the corner used book store and got a $1.00 copy of Shane. Paperback. But, you know I am a bibliomaniac so you are responsible for all the other books that I bought while there.

These include:
Strange World by Frank Edwards ($1.00)
The Want Ad Killer by Ann Rule ($2.75)
Mankind by Mick Foley ($4.00)
Retribution by Mabry Turner ($7.00)
The Borderland by Edwin Shrake ($7.50)
Cradle and All by James Patterson ($4.00)
The Blair Witch Project, A Dossier by D.A. Stern ($4,50)
The World of the American Pit Bull Terrier by Richard Stratton ($10.00)

I figure I ought to pay for the Shane book, but the rest are your responsibilty. OBTW, even though you owe the money I get to keep the books. I'm a Democrat. We think that way. parsy the helplessly addicted welfare bibliomaniac .
69 posted on 07/20/2002 11:31:47 AM PDT by parsifal
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To: PJ-Comix
Hey, great idea! Count me in. With all the great minds (and the occasional libertarian) in here pontificating on the same book, the flow of ideas could put the Borg collective to shame.
70 posted on 07/20/2002 11:56:46 AM PDT by applemac_g4
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Midnight bump
71 posted on 07/20/2002 9:19:34 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: PJ-Comix
I want in, too.
72 posted on 07/20/2002 10:55:12 PM PDT by BradyLS
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To: PJ-Comix
Count me in. This is a book I have always wanted to read and haven't!
Great idea I think to have this reading club!
73 posted on 07/20/2002 11:01:38 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: stylin_geek
Yes, I agree with you when it comes to Ayn Rand. I did like Atlas Shrugged but, a lot of characters were not really developed. Which is why I think The Fountainhead is a much better book. Good message, and great characters that are fully developed.

The one I always recommned to readers wanting to know what Rand was about is We The Living. Fantastic movie, too!

74 posted on 07/20/2002 11:09:58 PM PDT by BradyLS
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To: PJ-Comix
Great idea! Count me in!
75 posted on 07/21/2002 2:48:57 AM PDT by johnnybobs
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To: PJ-Comix
Yeah, I would lose my credibility if I assigned Atlas Shrugged. I don't care if I agree with the message. If it doesn't hold readers' interest, it doesn't get assigned. I have my credibility here to protect.

I seriously doubt you would have to assign Atlas Shrugged anyhow. But if the discussions of these books go well in their own threads, and other threads with other books become successful, there really wouldnt be any reason not to make an offical 'Free Republic Book Club' thread on Atlas. Enough FReepers have read it that it wouldnt have to be assigned, and no credibility would be lost.

And for the record, I read Atlas Shrugged and liked it very much. A few recommendations for this new club might be:

Fiction: The Haj, by Leon Uris or maybe The Grapes of Wrath, by...crud cant think of his name right now...:-(

Non-Fiction: D'Souza's Illiberal Education or The End of Racism (the latter is a much easier read), or perhaps the new Sowell book on basic economics (forgot its exact title) or...

Comic-Books: DK2 by Miller and Varney, or maybe the new Spider-Man rewrite...JFK

76 posted on 07/21/2002 3:25:30 AM PDT by BADROTOFINGER
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To: PJ-Comix
I've never participted in a Reading Club before; however, I am interested in joining this one.

Count me in!!

77 posted on 07/21/2002 3:53:36 AM PDT by MasonGal
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To: PJ-Comix
Shane was required reading when I was in 7th grade.
Nowadays, they're probably not letting kids read it.
Guns and all, ya know.


78 posted on 07/21/2002 4:21:35 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: another cricket
I'll join. Who needs sleep anyway?

Not me. When I signed off this thread Friday night, I read (actually re-read) about a quarter of the Shane book, then caught a couple of hours sleep and got up at 3:00 AM to go down to the Keys Saturday morning. I just got back a little while ago. So, you see, reading Shane isn't something that will take a lot of time.

79 posted on 07/21/2002 7:56:42 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: WHATNEXT?
When you choose the next book - don't give reviews, opinions, details.

OK, I'll hold off. I only posted that review of Shane to overcome the concerns of non-Western fans.

80 posted on 07/21/2002 8:00:06 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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