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The Coming War with Saddam
The Weekly Standard ^ | 07/29/2002 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 07/20/2002 8:43:05 AM PDT by Pokey78

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To: VaBthang4
Bottom Line : "Protect Our Borders".

The Bush Administration must wake up and carry out thier mandate to protect us from all threats, foreign and domestic. I am very down on Bush and his "Talk loudly and carry a twig" style.

21 posted on 07/20/2002 11:54:46 AM PDT by undergroundwarrior
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To: Guillermo
Not only are hey arriving by the day, any attempt to stop them is characterized by the Bush Administration as "neo-Nazi" and "McCarthyite".

Guillermo, I must of have missed it, would you mind pointing to your source where someone in the Bush administration has characterized anyone for any reason as "neo-nazi" or "McCarthyite".

Thank you.

22 posted on 07/20/2002 12:26:39 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Guillermo
Very good point, Guillermo.

Bush's "concerted effort" is just smoke.

Foreign students, muslims, Chinese, even Arabs, come in just as before, by the hundred-thousand.

State Department calls Burton a Nazi for just wanting to tighten up the illegal immigration A LITTLE bit.

Bush is just a BS artist, in the same vein as X42: "The era of big Government is over..." =..."concerted effort..."

SSDD.

23 posted on 07/20/2002 1:52:43 PM PDT by caddie
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To: dpwiener
Did we need another shoe to drop after Pearl Harbor?

The people want to engage, it is the Wimp-in-Chief who doesn't.

24 posted on 07/20/2002 1:54:03 PM PDT by caddie
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To: CIB-173RDABN
This happened in the past couple of days. Guillermo has more info than I do, but, basically, two dudes in the State Department emailed each other complaining about Dan Burton, the excellent Representative from Indiana, who would like to tighten up the visa program.

State basically wants to maintain the status quo, even after 9/11. Why? either they are totally infiltrated or they are just your typical, effeminate, liberal, America-hating snobs of the Ivy League genre.

They have not been punished for calling Burton those two things.

Nor will they be, because Bush is one of them.

25 posted on 07/20/2002 1:57:58 PM PDT by caddie
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To: dr_who
Well, they better get the show on the road. I am getting sick and tired of nothing being done. If GW wants my vote next time around, he'd better get a move on.
26 posted on 07/20/2002 1:58:09 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: caddie

WASHINGTON, July 17 (UPI) -- Top State Department officials have accused Republican House leaders and White House officials of McCarthyism and neo-Nazism for criticizing the visa system's failures, the Washington Times reported Thursday.

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Thank you for providing enough information to do a google search.

It would appear that these State Department Officials are calling the White House officials by the same names. So, it would seems we could say that the Bush Administration is calling itself “neo-nazis”, or would it make more sense that a career bureaucrat in the State Department is speaking for himself?

Would it be safe to say there are some working in the State Department that do not like President Bush and would speak ill of him and his administration? Rather than accuse the administration of calling critics “neo-nazis” it would be more accurate to say some in the State Department have called critics “neo-nazis”.

In an ideal world, the President would be able to clean house over in the State Department, but this is not an ideal world, and I am sure the President has other things on his plate just now.

27 posted on 07/20/2002 2:44:48 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: caddie
>>Foreign students, muslims, Chinese, even Arabs, come in just as before, by the hundred-thousand<<

All visas from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Iran, and Afghanistan should have been cancelled on 9/12.

This is perfectly legal, and is within the discretion of the State Department.

Holders of the canceled visas should have been concentrated within 48 hours, and deported within two weeks.

I cannot fathom why this was not done, why it is not being done now, and why it isn't planned for next week.

Amazing.

28 posted on 07/20/2002 2:55:31 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Here's one of several sources: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/719345/posts
29 posted on 07/20/2002 2:59:19 PM PDT by Guillermo
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To: Pokey78
I have to say that its been awhile since I have read any reports as to the numbers of troops being sent to the area. Which is a good thing as to not tip our hand completely but which could also mean preparations for war are already underway.
30 posted on 07/20/2002 3:24:07 PM PDT by fiftymegaton
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Thanks for the reply.

Seems to me, though, that this is the steak on his plate.

If State is this rat's nest of subversives and liberals, the reason we cannot secure our borders, and thus, the ultimate cause of our lax national security against terrorists, then it should be jobs one, two, and three for W.

The "it's not an ideal world" argument is a cop-out, IMHO.,

Think for a minute how stringently the IRS enforces its tax laws against you and me, and how stringently the INS enforces the immigration laws against the millions of illegals. Do you notice a difference?

How come it's an ideal world when the IRS comes-a-knocking, but its all "imperfect world...etc.", when we simply ask the fountainhead of illegal arabs, chinese, and mexican aliens to be controlled?

Why are some laws impossible to enforce, and others, enforced flawlessly?

Any ideas? Regards, caddie.

31 posted on 07/21/2002 1:06:15 PM PDT by caddie
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To: Jim Noble
It's because Bush is a craven coward, a terrible, selfish person, who would sell the entire country out from under us and our kids, and give it to the Third World, if it would ensure his reelection.

I never thought he was so primitive and so selfish, but, his behavior towards the Mexicans, etc., to curry their favor and get reelected, is simply despicable.

He is every bit as bad as Clinton or Carter.

He is a terrible POTUS.

And remember my words when, heaven forbid, some dirty nuke goes off in Chicago or New York: It went off so George Bush could curry favor with minorities in a misguided attempt to get a second term, for his personal ego trip.

32 posted on 07/21/2002 1:10:48 PM PDT by caddie
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To: caddie
I would agree with you that we live in an imprefect and in some cases an unjust world. I do not have an answer for it. I pay my taxes, I keep up with current events, I vote every election and I serve when called on juries. When younger I saw combat in the service of my country. These I would considered by basic civic duties.

Knowing the system is not perfect, does not make me lose faith in it. What is the alternative?

As for what is going on now and what appears to be non-action by President Bush, I beleive there is more going on then we know. I also beleive that once open and full fledge hostilities break out, including more terrorist act within our borders, we will see some action concerning unwelcomed guest, and our open borders.

And so I am willing to wait and see what happens. How long will I wait? At least another year. We should know by then if President Bush has what it takes to solve this problem.

33 posted on 07/21/2002 1:38:06 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Nothing would make me happier than to find out that there was some underlying, master strategy, concocted by Bush, in letting all these al-Qaeda operatives (estimated at 5000 by the Bush Administration) roam around freely in the United States, nearly a year after September 11.

Or that there was some elegant plan to cinch down our borders, after allowing millions more Chinese, Arab, and Mexicans come in, with impunity, as before.

But there is no such grand scheme or philosophy.

There is just sloth, cowardice, indifference, and narcissism on the part of Bush, who wants desperately to be perceived as a "good guy," as everybody's friend, including illegal aliens', so that he can get reelected.

And it is saddening to come to that realization, after initially being a Bush supporter, and after voting for Bush, and protesting publicly during the Gore-Bush face-off after the election.

And sad after seeing him come out so strongly and unequivocally against terrorism, right after September 11.

I thought it would go without saying that sealing the borders and rounding up illegals would be the highest priority.

But he lets in more and more illegals, from all over the globe, and wants to give amnesty to millions more here, just so he can be "a good guy" and get reelected.

It is sickening, and it is the opposite of his job description.

34 posted on 07/21/2002 1:54:47 PM PDT by caddie
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To: caddie
We are both seeing the same thing, but interpret it differently.

I guess we will jsut have to wait and see how it all turns out.

Good day, I off to look at some other threads.

35 posted on 07/21/2002 2:11:43 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: CIB-173RDABN
I off = I am off
36 posted on 07/21/2002 2:28:39 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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