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To: Askel5
Forget Dane. He's a documented liar. Just like Bush.

Disarm and Spend, Baby, Spend It's a family tradition.

It Can't Happen Here Or Can It?
Focus On The Family
By Tom Neven - editor
August 1998

The living room and study of his Colorado Springs home groan beneath the weight of books and testify to a keen intelligence and wide-ranging curiosity. Plutarch’s Lives of the Caesars, Winston Churchhill’s five-part history of World War II, an entire shelf of Tolstoy and the complete works of Martin Luther in both English and German mingle with The Basic Writings of Thomas Jefferson and biographies of Stonewall Jackson and Sir Thomas More.

The Rev. Charles Carroll, who at 82 has the intellectual vigor of a man 50 years his junior, has just about seen it all in his lifetime. But his years studying in Berlin in the shadow of Hitler have perhaps had the greatest effect in shaping him. Today, he has many things to say as our culture continues to wallow in abortion on demand and careens headlong toward physician-assisted suicide, euthanasia and even eugenics, the belief that we can "improve" the human race through science.

The Warning Signs
Carroll lived in Berlin during 1937 and 1938, renting a room from a Jewish family recommended to him by the American embassy. He describes a surreal scene as the husband showed him around the apartment.

"He took me over to the medicine cabinet, showed me the medications and said, ‘You can use any of these if needed, but never touch this,’ " Carroll says. "It was cyanide. When we went back in the hall, I looked at the entrance doors. They were typical of the period, framed with glass, and behind each pane was a plate of steel. He said, '‘t will give mother Lido [the daughter] and me enough time.’

"I thought him paranoid at the time," Carroll continues, "but he was right, and I was dreaming." (Because the wife was not Jewish, the family managed to survive the Holocaust.)

By that point Nazi Germany was already well down the path to the Holocaust. It was a journey that began with small steps

First came The Law for the Prevention of Congenitally Ill Progeny on July 14, 1933. This eugenics program had two aspects: The positive side that encourages the increase of "racially healthy" Aryans, the Nazis’ supposed master race of non-Jewish Caucasians, and the negative side that justified vernichtung lebensunwerten lebens, literally "destruction of life unworthy to be lived."

Although abortion was technically illegal in Germany at the time, a case arose where a woman in the late stages of pregnancy was brought to be forcibly sterilized because she was among the "undesirables," the result of which would kill the unborn child. As a result of this "problem," the law was amended in 1934 to say that eugenic considerations carried equal weight to medical considerations when it comes to abortion.

It Can’t Happen Here…
Lest we become complacent, Carroll warns that what happened to Nazi Germany was not unique to that society.

"Although you cannot identify a situation in the United States exactly like that of Nazi Germany," Carroll says, "you can point to some parallels."

He stresses the he does not believe we are headed inexorably toward Nazism, but he does believe that the seeds for its horrible crimes are present in all societies. Sweden sterilized about 60,000 people against their will between 1935 and 1976, and Norway, Denmark and Finland at one time had similar laws allowing compulsory sterilization under certain circumstances. Germany in the 1930s just happened to provide fertile soil for those seeds to sprout.

Carroll cites, for example, the International Congress for Questions of Population in August 1935, hosted in Berlin by the German government. Participants came from around the world, including several from the United States led by Harry Laughlin of the Eugenics Research Association. Laughlin was of the opinion that the entire world was in debt to Hitler for his views on eugenics.

Indeed, in 1927 the Supreme Court had ruled in Buck v. Bell that involuntary sterilization was not unconstitutional.

"They were sterilizing people in Virginia who they felt were incompetent-a large number of blacks, some poor whites," Carroll says, and the Nazis often cited this legal case as they went forward with their eugenics agenda.

The German conference was also full of Darwinian "survival of the fittest" thinking and references to evolution. Indeed, Carroll remembers a post-war conversation he had with a Jewish physician, Leo Alexander, during which Alexander explained the ease with which some doctors could carry out abortion, forced sterilization and even murder.

"There is a difference," Alexander said, "between those who look upon their fellow human beings as common creatures of a common creator and those who look upon them as a conglomerate of biologicals and chemicals."

Forced Sterilization and abortion led inexorably to active euthanasia. As early as 1935, Hitler considered enacting some form of euthanasia, but his fear of what the church would say, as well as protests by Adolf Cardinal Bertram, chairman of the German Catholic conference, forced Hitler to put this program on hold, at least until the eve of World War II. As Germany moved against Poland in September 1939, Hitler enacted the euthanasia program, believing the distraction of war would give him cover.

The program, under the supervision of SS doctor Lt. Gen. Karl Brandt, led first to the killing of deformed or retarded children, carried out on an individual basis, and then the mass killing of adult "undesirables," which provided the first "practice" for the slaughter of the Holocaust. One lesson learned: Killing in carbon monoxide-filled buses (only of the means the Nazis used at the time) was inefficient, which led to the development of the quicker-killing Zyclon B of the gas chambers.

It is important to note that in no case was this killing done to sick or dying people or at the request of a patient. And with the exception of the first case, this killing was done without the knowledge of the families.

"If you can get a group of physicians to sterilize and abort and, as we say, euthanize, it isn’t very difficult to get them to do anything," Carroll warns. "There’s no doubt in my mind that sterilization, abortion and euthanasia were the first steps toward the Holocaust."

A Loss of Natural Law
Even though most people are not trained in the law, Carroll believes Christians today must understand basic issues of law if they are to stand against the growing culture of death.

In particular he refers to society’s loss of natural law, "one of the bulwarks of what we once called Western civilization," he says. Natural law is the belief that, just as the physical world functions under a series of laws that we ignore at our peril, so too does the moral world.

The opposite of natural law is positive law: The law is what the judge, legislature—or the Fuehrer—says it is. Carroll cites, for example, Hitler’s speech of July 13, 1934, during which he stated that he was the law in Germany.

While not as audacious as Hitler’s diktat, the modern judiciary’s tendency to rule by apparent fiat is a close approximation of the state overruling natural law-- Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme court decision that legalized abortion, being the chief illustration.

Backbone of Resistance
Carroll believes that many Christians were fearless in their opposition to Hitler. And this, he stresses, required great moral and physical courage. "People minimize that today," he says.

Carroll cites a letter from Helmut von Moltke, great-grand nephew of the famous 19th-century field marshal of the same name, to his wife just before he was executed by the Nazis.

"I was not being tried because of an attempt on Hitler’s life, which I did not make, nor because I was a great land owner, nor because I was of the nobility, but because I was first and foremost a Christian," von Moltke wrote.

"I feel it can unequivocally stated that the church was the backbone of what resistance there was," Carroll says. Catholic bishop Clemens von Galen of Munster stood in his pulpit Aug 3, 1941, and denounced the euthanasia program at considerable risk to himself." After his speech, countless Catholic bishops and evangelical leaders joined forces and protested.

"Not that it stopped all the programs," Carroll admits, but it had some success. "The euthanasia program, by admission of Lt. Gen. Brandt, came to a slow end during the war, and he gave the churches credit for it."

"What Would I Do?"
What if you had been alive then? "that’s a question all of us have to ask," Carroll says.

"The thing that bothers me the most in the United States today is that the moral foundations of the republic are shattered," he says. "Our growing apathy disturbs me. One of the interesting things about the Nazi revolution is that Germany was in a moral vacuum [when Hitler came to power], and moral vacuums, like natural vacuums, seek to be filled."

A courageous church, unafraid to speak out, is the only hope to fill that void, he believes, citing the following statement from Albert Einstein:

"Being a lover of freedom, when the [Nazi] revolution came, I looked to the universities to defend [freedom], knowing that they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but no the universities were immediately silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers, whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced.

"Only the church stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing the truth."


INTRODUCTION TO EUGENICS
"The transformation from open eugenics to population planning is described well by Germaine Greer: "It now seems strange that men who had been conspicuous in the eugenics movement were able to move quite painlessly into the population establishment at the highest level, but if we reflect that the paymasters—Ford, Mellon, Du Pont, Standard Oil, Rockefeller and Shell—are still the same, we can only assume that people like Kingsley Davis, Frank W. Notestein, C. C. Little, E. A. Ross, the Osborns (Frederick and Fairfield), Philip M. Hauser, Alan Guttmacher and Sheldon Segal were being rewarded for past services."30 That is, the population control movement was the same money, the same leaders, the same activities—with a new excuse.

One of the organizations that promoted eugenics under the new population rubric was The Population Council. It was founded in 1952 by John D. Rockefeller III, and spent $173,621,654 in its first 25 years.31 That is not a bad budget for one of the organizations in a dead movement! Clearly, the people who think the eugenics movement died in the rubble in Berlin do not understand crypto-eugenics, genetics or population control."

Race Hygiene: Three Bush Family Alliances - (Eugenics)

"Author George J. Marlin also addressed the noon-day crowd, telling them that the roots of the current abortion and euthanasia questions grew from the eugenics movement of the early 20th century. "It was the desire of certain wealthy people in America, the Rockefellers, Harrimans, Eastmans and others, to get rid of whom they called the undesirables." He said it was only a short step from these beginnings to the present day practice in Norway of the "angel-of-death-squads" that roam the Norwegian countryside "coercing the sick into killing themselves."

Intended Consequences: Birth Control, Abortion, and the Federal Government in Modern America
"Critchlow properly focuses, though, on the two “giants” of the population control movement: oil heir John D. Rockefeller III and Hugh Moore, founder of the Dixie Cup Corporation. The former man’s role began when “a fortuitous meeting in the men’s room” at the Rockefeller Center with investment banker Lewis Strauss led to creation of the Population Council in 1952. Ostensibly a scientific agency doing objective research, the Council became the center of population control propaganda and activism. Frederick Osburn, President of the Eugenics Society, ran day-to-day operations. Rockefeller gave the Council a start‑up grant of $1.2 million, followed by large gifts from the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and the Scaife family. Over the next 25 years Rockefeller served as the “pivotal” figure in creating a population movement that would fundamentally alter both public policy and the very social structure of the United States.

Moore was more “alarmist” and “obsessed” than Rockefeller, and more radical in his call for coercive measures. His widely circulated 1954 pamphlet, “The Population Explosion,” cast population control as absolutely necessary to prevent the spread of communism. When he formed the Population Crisis Committee in 1963, Moore pulled into the cause still other well-born establishment figures, including Pierre S. DuPont, Ellsworth Bunker, and John McCloy.

Statement on the Death of John J. McCloy - George H.W. Bush

JOHN J. McCLOY PAPERS

America: 2003
"Author Kai Bird, in his biography of John J. McCloy wrote: "Certain men had it, that 'weight of judgement',' that ability of honest, objective appraissal. They need not be brilliant, and they must not be creatures of any ideological doctrine. Both brilliance and ideology got in the way of objectivity....These few men of gravitas were ENTITLED to the public trust for ONLY THEY were capable of dealing with the 'imponderables' of public policy." They believe that they have superior intellect, and therefore have the right, nay the responsibility, [their hubris knows no bounds] to decide the life decisions for the more "intellectually challenged."

But there may be even more to this crowd of CS movers and shakers. The most influential CS gentleman of this century, John J. McCloy, head of the Chase Manhattan Bank, Armand Hammer's lawyer, lawyer for the 7-Sisters oil companies, head of the World Bank, chairman of the Ford Foundation and Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations, undersecretary of War under Stimson [FDR], Member of the Warren Commission and one of LBJ's 'Wise Men', was accused by J. Edgar Hoover as being a Communist spy. Further, in a mole hunt of the same period, the FBI's information pointed strongly to yet another CS top dog: Averill Harriman. Eventually they realized it was Armand Hammer, but the FBI never trusted Harriman. To them the question was is he a card carrying communist, or just a communist sympathizer? When you look at this elite circle of CS from this time period, [and yes, even today], there was clearly, and consistently evidence that many were involved with communists, and sympathized with them, particularly in regards to keeping the rabble at bay. These CS all belonged to the same clubs, the same organizations. They exerted extraordinary influence of government policy, even though they were, mere citizens. Their careers moved fluently between multi-national corporations, government positions, and back again. They were wealthy and powerful.

The circle of clubs they belonged to were secretive and select. In the early 1970's some of these organizations made a move to expand their membership, and become less secretive as the spotlight started to glare on the extraordinary influence these ostensible "citizens" had on government. The ranks were filled with opinion makers. But it was a ruse. The truth is the secretive, and formative "few", while opening up the 'ranks" and appearring to be less secretive, in fact merely created "inner circles" within these organizations where the top dogs still reigned supremem, and called the shots. In the 1980's the CS who subscribe to Flagship, expanded even more. They decentralized. While most of the influential CS organizations had heretofore been located solely in NY and DC, like-minded organizations were spun off to California, Texas, and a few other cities. I must add, again, the bulk of the CS are not privy to the agenda of Flagship, but serve only as unwitting tools, blinded by their own ideological myopia: money and power.

...Henry Kissinger and George Bush [who both were, coincidentally, mentored by John J. McCloy] were the key persons responsible for creating this trade deficit with China. And now China takes the money and buys weapons, while planning war games where we, The United States, are defined as the enemy."

COMMUNIST EXPLOITATION OF RELIGION - Richard Wurmbrand - From Hell To Heaven

"Eugenics exemplifies the modern project -- to control the future" - George Will

I'm off to a meeting, see ya later. Have fun. 8-)

53 posted on 07/20/2002 5:55:01 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
The opposite of natural law is positive law

Not exactly. The opposite of natural law is nihilism, that there is no law. The consequence of wholly accepting that shadow is a choice with no rational basis for either pole: either one wills or one wills not. Affirm life or deny it--but there's nothing left to base an affirmation of life upon but the simply biological will that seeks to escape death, avoid pain and feel pleasure. Thus we come to Hobbes and Mills. Logic (teleologically meaningless but useful as a tool of the will) will tell you that men, being relatively similar in strength, require numbers to protect themselves and to gain any significant power. To do so, we create the Leviathan and invest it with an illusory authority--for if there's no Law, there's no reason to keep one's word when it is not in one's interest, though it may be in one's interest to fool others into thinking illusion real. Thus we have positivism--not the opposite of Law per se, but the consequence of the opposite.

Of course, once the Leviathan exists, what guides it? Certainly not moral laws, save as it needs them to continue to manipulate it's subjects.

56 posted on 07/20/2002 6:33:51 PM PDT by Pistias
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To: Uncle Bill; Askel5
Bump and a bookmark!
59 posted on 07/20/2002 10:51:55 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Uncle Bill; Stingray
America 2003 ... been a long time since I've seen that post.

Thanks for post, Uncle Bill. It was Stingray who introduced me to eugenics. I'd no idea such a thing existed. I also appreciate the reprint of It Can't Happen Here. Was trying to pull that very article up via another thread the other night and it was dead ... couldn't come up with another copy.

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More links within "Zygotes & Embryos are People" including what Randy Engel I've posted and Pardek's fix of the Julian Simon links.

60 posted on 07/20/2002 11:17:37 PM PDT by Askel5
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