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"IRAN MUST STRIKE AT THE HEART OF THE UNITED STATES": RAFSANJANI
Iran Press Service ^ | July 17, 2002 | Unknown

Posted on 07/21/2002 6:10:37 AM PDT by Gemflint

"IRAN MUST STRIKE AT THE HEART OF THE UNITED STATES": RAFSANJANI

TEHRAN 17 July (IPS) One of Iran’s most powerful officials menaced Wednesday the United States of terrorist attack in its "very heartland".

***"The Islamic Republic must get ready for confrontation against the enemy’s attack by answering its offensive right in its heartland", Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani told the hard line "Jomhoori Eslami" (Islamic Republic) newspaper, which belongs to Ayatollah Ali Khameneh'i.

It was the second time in as many days that the Chairman of the Expediency Council was attacking the recent statement by President George W. Bush, inviting Tehran to abandon its "destructive and belligerent policy".

Informed Iranian political analysts said considering the position of the former president, who is also considered as the closest aid, friend and adviser of Ayatollah Ali Khameneh'i, the lamed leader of the Islamic regime, his threats must be taken "very seriously".

"Mr. Hashemi Rafsanmjani’s declaration is very dangerous, for it might provoke the United States to launch a military attack on Iran, at a time that Washington considers regimes such as those of Iran and Iraq a threat for its own, and the world’s security", commented Mr. Ali Keshtgar, the Editor of the Paris-based monthly "Mihan".

Mr. Hashemi Rafsanjani termed as "impudent and insolent" President Bush’s 12 July statement in which he openly expressed support for Iranian "elected officials" and reformers against the "non-elected ones who continue to stick to power", a clear reference to Ayatollah Khameneh'i and the conservatives he led.

"The importance of Mr. Bush’s statement is that not only he rejects any secret or open deals and relations with the authoritarian wing of the leadership represented by the Khameneh'i-Rafsanjani couple, but also for the first time in the past 50 years, the United States overtly backs the Iranian people’s aspirations and demands for democracy and freedom. Contrary to the conservative’s accusations and outcries, this is not an interference in Iranian domestic affairs", he told the Persian service of Radio France Internationale.

Ayatollah Khameneh’i also attacked President Bush, whom he accused of "sowing discord and division" between top Iranian officials.

"Having understood nothing and not realising how much the Iranian people hates America, the impudent, opportunist, hated and insolent American president continue to repeat same old mistakes, but he was slapped in the mouth by our respected president", the unpopular Khameneh'i told Education Ministry officials.

"US president's latest remarks are a lesson for the Iranian nation to see how the enemies are seeking to sow seeds of division among our officials, saying they accept one segment and do not accept another. This also is a lie, for they do not accept anyone", he said in an angry and chocked tone.

***Analysts said what has angered much Mr. Khameneh'i is that some Iranian reformers have actually supported President Bush’s last statement.

"Today, Iran is not the only place where the US flag is being set ablaze and the slogan of death to America is a pivotal principle of the nation", he added, quoted by the official news agency IRNA, promising a big anti-American show on Friday.

Nationwide rally will be held on Friday to denounce the US president's interventionist statements about Iran, IRNA confirmed.

The United States has accused Iran of sponsoring international terrorism, seeking to acquire weapons of mass destruction and sheltering Taleban and al-Qa’eda fighters fleeing neighbouring Afghanistan -- all charges Iran strongly denies.

In his diatribe, Mr. Khameneh'i did not spare the Islamic Iran Participation Party (IIPP), saying some "narrow minded people" were after the creation of a "single party rule".

The harsh remarks coincided with the start the third Congress of IIPP, which is Iran's largest pro-reform political organisation and is led by Dr Mohammad Reza Khatami, the younger brother of the embattled and powerless President.

In his opening address, Dr Khatami, who is also the Majles’ first Deputy Speaker, launched a strong attack on the country's ruling conservatives, warning against the "return of despotism and dictatorship" if changes are not allowed to succeed.

Mr. Khatami accused the conservatives of trying to kill the reform process, and forecast the collapse of the Islamic regime if nothing is done to calm public fears.

"If the reforms don't bear fruit, it will lead to a return and re-establishment of despotism and a dictatorship" in Iran, the IIPP’s General Secretary told the packed audience, at which were present the leaders of several pro-reform parties and groups.

"How can we face the world when our Judiciary let terrorists walking freely in the streets but place thinkers, journalists and intellectuals in prison because of their believes", he pointed out.

Khatami accused the conservatives, whose control of the courts and other levers of power hamper the work of the pro-reform parliament and the government, of "resorting to all political and institutional means" to bring the "reform process to failure."

"The conservatives are utilising state bodies for partisan aims and to widen the gap between the people and the regime," he said. They were "knowingly or unknowingly looking to create tension" in the political landscape.

He expressed concern over the future of the regime, warning that totalitarian governments were bound to collapse. "Iran is not an exception to that principle", he added.

He described the present situation as "chaotic" and "critical", and observed that political, social and economic crises have led to very serious concerns among the population.

"If nothing is done, the regime will face the threat of collapse", he warned.

"The crisis is present and it is growing with every day. That is why the people have lost their confidence in the regime", Khatami further added.

A total of 290 delegates were attending the three-day meeting, which began Wednesday to define a "plan for action" for future elections in the remaining three years of President Khatami's second and last tenure.

The Party, which serves as an organ for the President, came under an unprecedented attack Tuesday after a moderate conservative daily accused it to prepare a "subversive plan of action" for retain power "once the clergy is finished". ENDS BUSH KHAMENEH'I 17702


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1 posted on 07/21/2002 6:10:37 AM PDT by Gemflint
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To: Gemflint
Geez. Why can't I have a country to run as a despot? These guys are so bad, it must be really easy. Seems like just any raving lunatic can rise to the top in the Mid East....
3 posted on 07/21/2002 6:19:44 AM PDT by sam_paine
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To: Gemflint
Sounds like the hornet's nest has been stirred up. We need to keep the pressure on...
4 posted on 07/21/2002 6:23:34 AM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: Gemflint
Dr Khatami ... launched a strong attack on the country's ruling conservatives

Perhaps a sign that the press sees the end coming? Or just more right-bashing?

5 posted on 07/21/2002 6:24:19 AM PDT by Eala
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To: Gemflint
IRAN MUST STRIKE AT THE HEART OF THE UNITED STATES.. - so they're going to vote democrat then!
6 posted on 07/21/2002 6:25:53 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001
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To: Lazamataz
re: FUEL CELL TECHNOLOGY NOW!

What does that mean, Laz?

That's like saying "GALLIUM ARSENIDE TECHNOLOGY NOW!" The technology exists, there's no magic, but it only makes economic sense in certain applications.

Why don't you run out and make it economically make sense? Why not get some pals together in your garage and start building some? Go to the welding supply, get some hydrogen. Or distill some fuel. But then the neighbors will probably be suspicious of you and turn you in, and then you'll need to get the permits, and more funding to pay the fees and lobbyists fro more federal funding....

7 posted on 07/21/2002 6:26:52 AM PDT by sam_paine
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To: Gemflint
I hope Khatami and his group are legitimate. If they are, then they're very brave to come out and oppose the mullahs.

This also brings up one of Bush's statements after 9-11, that we would turn these ME groups against each other. It's about time we got those terrorists and their supporters looking after their own flesh, not looking to take a pound of ours.

8 posted on 07/21/2002 6:27:31 AM PDT by mikegi
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To: Gemflint
The Islamic Republic must get ready for confrontation against the enemy’s attack by answering its offensive right in its heartland

Call me when they say something of substance. This is yet more rhetoric. They wouldn't know what or where the American Heartland is if you smacked him upside the head with an ear of corn.

9 posted on 07/21/2002 6:30:11 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Eala
Dr Khatami ... launched a strong attack on the country's ruling conservatives

Perhaps a sign that the press sees the end coming? Or just more right-bashing?

Good question. I wondered if the use of the term "conservatives" was the actual word used, or if it was just how it was translated to English by some leftist Euro press type. It seems the more accurately descriptive term is "fundamentalists." I highly doubt that the party described as "conservatives" is anything remotely like the people who would label themselves "conservatives" in the U.S. I agree, probably more right bashing.

10 posted on 07/21/2002 6:33:16 AM PDT by PLK
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To: mhking
They wouldn't know what or where the American Heartland is if you smacked him upside the head with an ear of corn.

So true ... and the image of that is giving me a good laugh this morning. Thanks.

11 posted on 07/21/2002 6:35:19 AM PDT by PLK
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To: Lazamataz
I agree with your implied comment that it is money (we pay them for oil) that has allowed them to support terrorist.

Eliminate the money, and you will go a along way towards limiting terrorist.

Fuel cells may be part of the answer. Opening up oil fields (closed down by enviromentalist) may also be part of the answer. Finding a replacement for oil, may be the best answer (it would not be a first time that an energy source has changed).

Those are long term solutions, the short term may just be to go back in and take the oil fields, and pay the countries a fair price for the oil, but spend the money on schools, roads and other public works, but none for their military.

We can not stop them from hating us, but we can take away their source of financing.

12 posted on 07/21/2002 6:36:23 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: sam_paine
Seems like just any raving lunatic can rise to the top in the Mid East....

In this case, not exactly. It took a lot of combined effort, over many years, from the militant mullahs and the Left together to depose Reza Shah, pressing him so hard that his crackdowns turned what had been a rather open regime into repression, secret police (Savak) and all. Followed by the power play which Khomeini's mullahs won, to the Left's surprise.

But as has been noted many times, the majority of the country has no memory of the Shah, only of the mullahcracy and they're chafing under that. I see these rants and raves as a sign that the mullahs' power is slipping away, they know it, and they are helpless to prevent it.

13 posted on 07/21/2002 6:38:09 AM PDT by Eala
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To: Free_at_last_-2001
I hope not.
14 posted on 07/21/2002 6:39:23 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Gemflint
Mr. Hashemi Rafsanjani termed as "impudent and insolent" President Bush’s 12 July statement

Mr. Rafsanjani fashions himself quite the Dr. Evil, doesn't he?

15 posted on 07/21/2002 6:40:08 AM PDT by Siouxz
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To: Gemflint
Does this mean the Iran will infiltrate Hollywood?
16 posted on 07/21/2002 6:42:12 AM PDT by zarf
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To: sam_paine
Geez. Why can't I have a country to run as a despot? These guys are so bad, it must be really easy. Seems like just any raving lunatic can rise to the top in the Mid East....

Maybe you can sue your high school career counselor for not bringing that career to your attention.You're probably too good for that kind of work-at least I hope so.
Seems like "cream" isn't the only thing that floats to the top , like I was taught in Sunday School.

17 posted on 07/21/2002 6:43:35 AM PDT by Captain Shady
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To: zarf
heartland=food
18 posted on 07/21/2002 6:52:27 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Siouxz
Mr. Hashemi Rafsanjani termed as "impudent and insolent" President Bush’s 12 July statement Mr. Rafsanjani fashions himself quite the Dr. Evil, doesn't he?

Does that make Rev. Farakhan, "Mini-me" ?

19 posted on 07/21/2002 6:52:34 AM PDT by Captain Shady
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To: Lazamataz
FUEL CELL TECHNOLOGY NOW!

Sweet!


21 posted on 07/21/2002 6:56:09 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: Gemflint
"right in its heartland"!!!
The Islamic militants must have been logging on to Free Republic.

America's enemies know that "Liberals" are their enablers and that the decadent, "Liberal" enclaves of America are the best hope for the destruction of the U.S., the Free World, and Western Civilization.

The American Heartland is the greatest, strongest bastion of liberty, the American spirit, the American genius, the American Dream, and Western Civilization in the world.

If America's enemies can destroy the Heartland, they can destroy America. The "Liberal" enclaves are their allies.

America's enemies have every reason to encourage "Liberals", "Liberalism", and decadence. They are the enablers of those who would destroy America. They were the enablers of the September 11 Massacre.

The American spirit is alive and florishing in the Heartland!

No wonder America's enemies wish to attack "right in its heartland"!!! That's where America's strength, genius, and future are!

Those who wish to defend the United States would be wise to defend the Heartland--to encourage, nurture, and strengthen it--to elect public officials who will do so--

And to work to defeat decadence, "Liberals", "Liberalism", and "Liberal" politicians and public officials. They are the allies of America's enemies and are themselves inimical to the United States and all that it stands for.

22 posted on 07/21/2002 6:56:27 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: Gemflint
"Mr. Hashemi Rafsanjani termed as 'impudent and insolent' President Bush’s 12 July statement "

Yep. They've been loggin on to Free Republic, all right.

How many times has it been said that George W. Bush is the quintessence of the American Heartland!?!!

23 posted on 07/21/2002 7:00:25 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: Gemflint
That's right. Give the U.S. an excuse to topple your government. Smart move.
24 posted on 07/21/2002 7:04:57 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: Gemflint
Since they said they should do it,if it happened,should we take them for their word that they did it ?I can just imagine WWIII starting,and maybe it should.
25 posted on 07/21/2002 7:11:44 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: sam_paine
I say BRING IT, YOU MUSLIM SCUMBAG! I'm waiting in IOWA. The heat index today is 105. If you have the courage to come here, I'll escort you to a much hotter place.
26 posted on 07/21/2002 7:12:38 AM PDT by iowaboy
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To: Gemflint
Somebody's turban is wrapped just a bit too tightly....
27 posted on 07/21/2002 7:14:00 AM PDT by TheGrimReaper
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To: Gemflint

28 posted on 07/21/2002 7:14:08 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Irwin Corey PhD
You stupid moron. Here's an article showing that the repressive regime is getting desperate because the Iranian masses are turning on them and becoming pro-American, and you want to nuke all of them? Provoke a much wider war when it may not be needed?

Gee, what's your heavy-handed solution for things you don't like here? Instead of instigating change through the voting booth, would you just nuke any state than has leaned Democrat in the past? Nuke California, instead of giving Simon a chance? Lots of California Freepers would prefer a more sane solution.

What a disgrace. You are certainly no professional medical doctor. A true doctor can analyze a problem and prescribe an appropriate treatment, not an overkill. You would whack off an arm because there is a wart on a finger.
29 posted on 07/21/2002 7:17:10 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Savage Beast
Like Tom Dasholes "Heartland"?
30 posted on 07/21/2002 7:24:23 AM PDT by DB
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To: Gemflint
In response, the goverment is working closely with farmers to retrofit their combines with anti-caca defenses.
31 posted on 07/21/2002 7:26:01 AM PDT by aSkeptic
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To: Gemflint
The armored corps and brown water offensive forces of Iran developed since the Iraq Turkey Shoot, aka Desert Storm, is a real local power. We must mobilize our resources to actually wage this war on terrorist nation sponsors. 9/11 is all the motivation we need, but our will to vanquish our mortal enemies is in question.
32 posted on 07/21/2002 7:27:25 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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To: Savage Beast
Exactly.....if they would manage to get rid of the Heartland, well, America would cease to exist as we know it almost immediately.
34 posted on 07/21/2002 7:32:32 AM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Gemflint
Why is this statement not a declaration of war on the United States, and our government respond to it in kind?
35 posted on 07/21/2002 7:35:29 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Gemflint
"How can we face the world when our Judiciary let terrorists walking freely in the streets but place thinkers, journalists and intellectuals in prison because of their believes", he pointed out.

Did Khatami really say that? Whoa, powderkeg time. I wouldn't look for the stock markets to move back up until the Euphrates showdown is concluded. Since the terrorists are the muscle over there, I see nothing short of a direct showdown with their govt's and armies as the only solution. The govt's and armies have to reform and go after the religious mafia over there. But with the mullahs indoctrinating a generation with hateful religious bigotry and ignorance, it seems there's no easy solution.

36 posted on 07/21/2002 7:36:39 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Gemflint
by answering its offensive right in its heartland...we've been warned, time to do racial profiling.
37 posted on 07/21/2002 7:38:49 AM PDT by RWG
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To: kinghorse
The USA govt is in a pickle. If they do nothing, they take the chance the enemy will take the fight to the USA. If they attack, it will undoubtably stregthen the Mullah's hand, at least in the short term as nationalistic instincts take hold. Perhaps it is best to use Iraq as the example for Iran to see.
38 posted on 07/21/2002 7:40:20 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Gemflint
Pre-emptive strike time...
39 posted on 07/21/2002 7:44:20 AM PDT by LouD
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To: Gemflint
Is this not a declaration of war?
40 posted on 07/21/2002 7:49:13 AM PDT by tomahawk
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Irwin Corey is the guy in the middle.

You must be a young whippesnapper. By this fellow assuming the good professor's moniker, one can safely assume he is goofing. Your right, now isn't the time to tick off the good ones over there (but I gotta say, the political and military relations of the west and east isn't exactly a picture of conciliation).

41 posted on 07/21/2002 7:50:37 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: CIB-173RDABN
We can not stop them from hating us, but we can take away their source of financing.

That bears repeating.

42 posted on 07/21/2002 7:52:35 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: mhking
"Call me when they say something of substance. This is yet more rhetoric. They wouldn't know what or where the American Heartland is if you smacked him upside the head with an ear of corn."

They had no trouble finding New York or have you forgotten 9/11?

43 posted on 07/21/2002 7:54:54 AM PDT by albee
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To: sam_paine
Seems like the only criteria for "rising to the top" in a typical Middle Eastern country is mental illness...

And isn't it the Liberals who demand that all American public school children be indoctrinated with the absurd notion that "All civilizations are equal"? DUH.

44 posted on 07/21/2002 7:55:28 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Diddle E. Squat
What a disgrace. You are certainly no professional medical doctor. A true doctor can analyze a problem and prescribe an appropriate treatment, not an overkill.

I take it you're unaware of the origin of the screen-name "Irwin Corey." Well, it does go back a few years. Try a Google Search under "Professor Irwin Corey."

45 posted on 07/21/2002 8:01:50 AM PDT by ihatemyalarmclock
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To: kinghorse
>>>If they attack, it will undoubtably stregthen the Mullah's hand, at least in the short term as nationalistic instincts take hold.

When you consider that over half the population of Iran would like to see the mullah despots fry, I say it depends on HOW YOU ATTACK and WITH WHO and WHAT. People don't like being sent off to torture if they can prevent it.

For all we know, the war may be ongoing, and this is just a peek at the future. Looks to me over the months since 9/11 the people of Iran may be doing the attacking, while we do the watching. Mullah despots know who is behind it, but don't or can't stop it.

You don't think for a minute that the people of Afghanistan loved the Taliban, do you? All you need is a few in-country willing to tell you what to target and where it is.

tarpon
46 posted on 07/21/2002 8:07:06 AM PDT by snooker
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To: Gemflint
We attack them, they attack us or vice versa. Simple math of war. What's the big deal? What else would one expect.
47 posted on 07/21/2002 8:08:07 AM PDT by a_Turk
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Here's an article showing that the repressive regime is getting desperate because the Iranian masses are turning on them and becoming pro-American, and you want to nuke all of them? Provoke a much wider war when it may not be needed?

That was my thought as well. I'm somewhat hopeful about Iran. Almost 50% of their population was born after the Hostage Crisis, and they have repeatedly shown that they disagree with the ruling theocrats and want pro-Western reforms. There is hope for a solid ally in the future there. It could even be that statements like Rafsanjani's will help inflame them, and cause them to act sooner, rather than vote later, for reform. Iran's vast experience at warring with Iraq just might come in handy, too. ;^)

48 posted on 07/21/2002 8:09:19 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Gemflint
I say we immediately smack down any government who makes overt threats of violence against the US and its interests. After one or two of these "states" were vaporized I think a lot of our problems would end. If there's any one adjective that describes these Middle East bastards it's "cowardly". After some of their bretheren fry the rest will be quite compliant.
49 posted on 07/21/2002 8:11:39 AM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: TLBSHOW
I think you're on to something.
50 posted on 07/21/2002 8:12:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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