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The cure for homosexuality: solution that brought him out of 'gay' life
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 | Stephen Bennett

Posted on 07/23/2002 2:04:07 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: Emmylou
You never did answer my question. Do you think that I should have a legal right to have sex with my brother (and marry him) since we are both consenting adults?
101 posted on 07/23/2002 2:41:10 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: justshutupandtakeit
That is why the word "gay" was chosed by the propagandists, as a mask for the most Ungay lifestyle imaginable.

Your words are so true. I never use the word 'gay' in the manner homosexual activists would have everyone do. It rings so false and creepy on my tongue, there is just no way to do it...I don't know how others stand it, either.

The correct word for what they do is homosexual sex...the correct name to call people who engage in this lifestyle is homosexuals. Someone spoke of a name gaining steam that refers to activist homosexuals as SSAD's. Or 'Same Sex Attraction Disorder'. That is an honest name as well.

102 posted on 07/23/2002 2:45:08 PM PDT by Republic
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To: Emmylou
Then you are a hypocrite! Have you been arguing that sex between consenting adults should not be regulated. Or maybe it does not jive with your moral standards. Well, homosexuality does not jive with mine. What's the difference?
104 posted on 07/23/2002 2:48:20 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Republic
You didn't ask me, but I believe that "sex" never occurs unless both genders are involved. The whole notion of "sex" presupposes a duality of gender.

To my way of thinking the correct term for the physical intimacy employed by those who prefer their own gender is "sodomy."

105 posted on 07/23/2002 2:54:01 PM PDT by Chunga
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To: Republic
This article points out a method to stopping the disgusting behavior. Pretty neat.

Where does this author say that, as a homosexual, he engaged in "disgusting" behvior? This is what he says:

"We had it all. We were on top of the world. A beautiful home, a dog, two cats, great friends and a loving, long-term, committed "storybook" relationship. No doubt, we were going to be partners for life. OK, so it wasn't exactly as I pictured it years earlier with Lynn and Claire, but hey, he was the man of my dreams."

Sounds pretty nice, to me. But then the author decided he was fooling himself, and that he would be happier in a heterosexual relationship. (What with the "Lynn and Clare" stuff, it sounds as if he wasn't homosexual, at all.) Well, bully for him. But that doesn't mean that what may have been good for him would be good for everyone (or anyone) else.

You know, I could write an article about how, because I'm happy in my gay relationship, everyone should go gay. Only I wouldn't think of being that presumptuous.

106 posted on 07/23/2002 2:54:07 PM PDT by Fethiye
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To: KansasGirl
Emmylou is a liberal. Libertarians believe that you should be permitted to marry your brother. (For the record...I don't. LOL.)
107 posted on 07/23/2002 2:56:32 PM PDT by Chunga
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To: Emmylou
"The answer is, aside from the sheer ick factor of brother and sister, there are a number of genetic defects that can affect the offspring."

Are you opposed to abortion?

109 posted on 07/23/2002 3:05:09 PM PDT by Chunga
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To: Emmylou
there are a number of genetic defects that can affect the offspring.

You are more likely than incest to pass on genetic defect if you already have a genetic defect like spinal biffita, downs, cleft pallet…by your standards, they should be regulated before incest, right? What about the mother whose had a hysterectomy and son whose had a vasectomy? It must be OK for father and son because it would be homosexual, right???? You can’t answer any of the questions because you’re a HYPOCRITE!!!

110 posted on 07/23/2002 3:07:17 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Fethiye
You had a good point about how the author views what I called disgusting behavior (refering to homosexual sex proclivities) except that you fudged as it were-you reported on how he viewed it when he was entrapped in it...this is what he calls his homosexual behavior, upon looking back at it, NOW:

As I look back on all those years of Tuesday TV nights with my boyfriend, I realize the homosexual lifestyle was a deceitful counterfeit of the "real" thing. My partner and I were like the children in my childhood of days gone by. We were two men who thought we had the world in the palm of our hands – when in fact, we had nothing at all. We were two lost souls, living in a world of make believe – two emotionally hurting boys playing house, desperately clinging onto each other night after night, week after week, year after year.

My guess is you can relate to this deep down, inside there where you hurt, big time. Oh I know how happy you are...you have made that clear.

Thing is...your words don't tell the same story.

112 posted on 07/23/2002 3:11:46 PM PDT by Republic
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To: Emmylou
The answer is, aside from the sheer ick factor of brother and sister, there are a number of genetic defects that can affect the offspring.

As if no "sheer ick factor" exists in one man sticking his **** in another man's ***.

Neither of us are physically capable of having children. So does that make it okay? On what legal basis could you say that it is not, since it is between two consenting adults? What business is it of yours what I do in my bedroom?

As for homosexuality not fitting in with your moral standards, I would suggest that you don't engage in same-sex relations.

Don't have to worry about that (I prefer sex with my brother). And I would appreciate it if you and your homosexual friends would quit trying to shove your deviant lifestyle down my throat and the throats of young innocent schoolchildren.

But don't expect gay people to "change" just because of your moral standards.

And don't expect society's view of homosexual behavior to change because homosexual activists insist of cramming it down our throats.

113 posted on 07/23/2002 3:12:47 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: JohnHuang2
Well written article.

I also notice how "gay" men spend a good amount of time on their grooming/looks while "gay" women let the looks go. I've been informed by a rightie that that's because guys look at the outside, girls look at the inside of a person. So when trying to pick up guys, one must look nice. When trying to pick up girls, one must have nice insides.

Makes sense, though somewhat disheartening.
114 posted on 07/23/2002 3:14:48 PM PDT by Little Bush
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To: Fethiye
I'll remember that the next time somebody tells me they're happy in their relationship. Instead of believing them and being happy for them, I'll mentally compare them to a raging alchoholic. Because, really, they're just alike!

You misunderstand me, my friend. What I consider homosexuality is my business; what you consider it is yours. I'm sure we won't agree on it. I have homosexual friends; I observe their lifestyles. I read what the CDC says regarding homosexual practices. I observe what's happened in my Church, the Catholic Church. I can make up my own mind about what I think about it. But I have nothing against you or your happiness. It's a free country. If what you do makes you happy and fulfilled, that's fine with me. My gripe is when my kids are approached and prosyletized and pushed to believe things about homosexuality which I believe are completely wrong and frequently even dangerous. Further, many homosexual men push to be in close contact with our teenage sons. They don't have that right. I don't concede it. Many people are perfectly content to live and let live - until their children are affected. At that point - watch out!

116 posted on 07/23/2002 3:19:18 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Emmylou
Yep, thanks to the stupid liberals we all must live in a morally decayed society. You and your ilk must be really proud of that. On the other hand, it makes me sick!
117 posted on 07/23/2002 3:19:55 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Little Bush
I also notice how "gay" men spend a good amount of time on their grooming/looks while "gay" women let the looks go. I've been informed by a rightie that that's because guys look at the outside, girls look at the inside of a person. So when trying to pick up guys, one must look nice. When trying to pick up girls, one must have nice insides.

... and, when you put the two together, you can achieve an appropriate balance and harmony.

118 posted on 07/23/2002 3:23:43 PM PDT by Quester
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To: Republic
You had a good point about how the author views what I called disgusting behavior (refering to homosexual sex proclivities) except that you fudged as it were-you reported on how he viewed it when he was entrapped in it...this is what he calls his homosexual behavior, upon looking back at it, NOW:

This is precisely my point: The author describes his personal feelings at one point, and then describes his personal feelings at a later point. Fine. I have no reason to doubt that his feelings have changed.

Nor do I see any reason to leave my happy relationship just because he left his. I mean, if I were to post a testimonial from a guy who's happy now that he left his wife for another guy, would you feel at all inclined to drop your wife (assuming you're married)?

And I am not going to tell you again that I'm happy, so please quit the solicitousness. It's rude, and it's tantamount to doubting my honesty, which I do not appreciate.

119 posted on 07/23/2002 3:25:06 PM PDT by Fethiye
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To: Emmylou
We have a big debate down here in Mississippi.

The question is this: If you get a divorce, is you ex-wife still legally your sister?

120 posted on 07/23/2002 3:35:30 PM PDT by Lower55
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To: Emmylou
But what about people who are comfortable and fulfilled in gay relationships?

I think the author is suggesting that they are deluded.

121 posted on 07/23/2002 3:42:41 PM PDT by NC_Libertarian
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To: JohnHuang2
In a single moment of time, the doors to my painful childhood were slammed shut once and for all, never to be opened again.

It's wonderful this man found peace. I pray that all confused individuals will do as well.

122 posted on 07/23/2002 3:45:17 PM PDT by LeeMcCoy
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To: Emmylou
Just keep sticking to that argument, Clint. It's not a winning one, but I admire your tenacity.

Why is it not a winning one? And, why can’t you tell me why children can’t consent. I’ll concede your point should you ever make a valid argument.

123 posted on 07/23/2002 4:32:02 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: KansasGirl
Bump!
124 posted on 07/23/2002 4:34:17 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Emmylou
I see no difference between two people of the same gender in a sexual relationship and pedophilia, quite often where the child proclaims this is what they want.
125 posted on 07/23/2002 4:38:32 PM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: Emmylou
My unanswered question to you is: Are you opposed to abortion?
126 posted on 07/23/2002 5:06:42 PM PDT by Chunga
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To: Emmylou
With President Bush appointing more openly gay people to his administration than Bill Clinton did in 8 years, I'd venture to say that society's views have changed quite dramatically.

No I'd say that Bush is trying the same crap I've been blaming him for the past 6 months and the Republican party for years. Trying to make the conservative party all inclusive. And if you do that, what's the difference between the Republicans and Democrats? Economic policy? Bush has picked up the tent and moved it to the middle of the road at least. When I voted for the man, my intent was to vote for someone that would bring a sense of family, belief in God, and strong moral values back to the White House. If I wanted someone nominating homosexuals and deviants I would have voted for Al Gore

The reason you see this change I fear is that a lot of citizens of their respective states have just given up. Remember the silent majority back in the 80s always spoken about? TV portrays homosexuality as the norm not because homosexuals are the norm in these United States, but because in 'enlightened' Hollywood it is the norm. The silent majority is tired of it, tired of money going to a sickness that while tragic, most of it goes to patients that caught the illness in immorality. I'm not saying that AIDS is necessarily a homosexual illness, but I just don't know of a large number of straight monogamous non drug using folks that catch AIDS

So you enjoy your change because no matter what you see in the media, I've got a real good feeling that most of the citizens of these United States do not or will they ever agree with you

127 posted on 07/23/2002 5:19:27 PM PDT by billbears
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To: KansasGirl; Clint N. Suhks; AppyPappy; Maelstrom; scripter; L.N. Smithee; Buffalo Bob; SiKKuS; ...
"... They will make the argument that their is nothing morally wrong with "intergenerational sex." Society is the one that has attached a stigma to it (same argument homos make)."

They have already made the argument:

Some quotes from the The Pedophilia/Pedophile Education Web Site Mirror:

"Pedophilia is a sexual-orientation, like heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality, etc..."

"It is well-known that several famous persons were pedophiles. For example, the philosopher Plato, is thought to have been one. A pedophile can literally be just about anyone you know... Currently, pedophiles do not even remotely enjoy the same kinds of legal protection that other scapegoated groups (i.e. jews, gays, blacks, etc.) enjoy. Pedophiles often have tough and unhappy lives, since they are not permitted to express who they are... Realize that pedophiles are not going away! A person cannot change his/her orientation any more than a dalmation can avoid spots. Despite eons of attempts to "cure" pedophilia, no such remedy has yet been found..."

"A movement against pedophiles (who are a VERY small minority) is underway on the net. Free speech right must be held up, but sadly there are people too ignorant to see past their hate and who endorse the idea of us being banned from the web... Free web page sites like Geocities have already responded to the pressure of these Fascists by shutting down websites advocating "boy love", while hypocritically leaving up gay-lesbian homepages, and even proudly listing them as members of the community!..."

"The bottom line is pedophiles must no longer be victims of hate-crimes and censorship for their beliefs. We must unite and stand against intolerance until we are accepted like gays are. My being a pedophile is simply a sexual-orientation, nothing more. It has complications due to the guilt applied by society to pedophiles and kids, but it is still not my fault I am a pedophile-even if it is my choice. It is possible pedophilia is genetic, or it may simply be learned behavior, but in any case, I and others like me should not be attacked or flamed for our beliefs. We cannot help what we are, any more than you can!..."

Myth # 4 "Pedophilia is a mental illness"

"No more than homosexuality is! It is a sexual-orientation and a way of life, nothing more. The typical pedophile is a sane, upstanding member of society. He/she is no more crazy than you are. They do not belong in institutions-they need understanding."

Myth # 7 "Pedophilia is always treatable"

"It is NEVER truly treatable. One is who one is. I will always be a pedophile..."

"It is time for a new beginning. Pedophiles should be active in the community to educate the masses on this lifestyle. This is currently very hard to do, but it has to happen sometime. Hopefully, pedophiles will be able to personally inform children inside elementary schools about pedophiles & who they REALLY are. We need classes for this purpose where pedophiles show kids in school that we are not child molesters. We can teach them the truth that other misguided adults will not reveal..."

"This is the Pedophile Credo or Constitution. It supports who we are without apology, and stresses self-acceptance and other child-loving awareness. Read it and learn by heart! Supporters of the PLA (Pedophile Liberation Army) must read this document and defend it... [1..40]... Those were the 40 basic commandments for all pedophiles to live by. One day we will have equal rights under the law, but only if you stand up and refuse to be a victim! This is a war and we need to win it at all costs. Fight ignorance and hate. Pedophiles unite! Pedophiles must organize! Pedophiles must act with one voice... Join the PLA today!"


Notice the similarities between the Pedophile Agenda and the Homosexual Agenda?

128 posted on 07/23/2002 5:25:56 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: Chunga
the cure for homosexuality

'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death;

Leviticus 20:13

129 posted on 07/23/2002 5:25:57 PM PDT by LO_IQ
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To: EdReform
Notice the similarities between the Pedophile Agenda and the Homosexual Agenda?

Yep. Whatever people do in their own bedroom, barn, brother’s bedroom... is their own business.

130 posted on 07/23/2002 6:21:06 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: JohnHuang2
It happened one morning in my parents' kitchen. My father and I did something we never really did before – we talked. We both dealt with the past, we vented, we questioned, we understood and we healed. And in an emotional embrace I'll never forget, we both did something else: We forgave. I have never been the same man since. Bingo! Forgiveness!
131 posted on 07/23/2002 6:33:39 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Fethiye
I think you would sound happy if you used LOL and :) every two lines. That or just very very strange...

*the preceding was intended as joke fodder*
132 posted on 07/23/2002 6:36:53 PM PDT by Saturnalia
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To: gilor
Tee hee. God loves you. NOW BURN IN HELL SINNERS!
133 posted on 07/23/2002 6:38:57 PM PDT by Saturnalia
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To: Emmylou
"That's the great thing about this nation -- we keep improving with age." I see you're enjoying the blinders.
So you think this was a better nation before the abolition of slavery, the passage of women's suffrage, and the civil rights movement?
ZING!
134 posted on 07/23/2002 6:46:52 PM PDT by Saturnalia
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To: NC_Libertarian
Emmylou:
But what about people who are comfortable and fulfilled in gay relationships?

NC_Libertarian:
"I think the author is suggesting that they are deluded."

Yes that is exactly what the author Stephen Bennett said. It is based on his own, before and after, lifestyles. I'm not thinking we need to prove anything to Fethiye or Emmylou. Evidently they are not seeking any greater happiness than they have found already. So be it.

Just know that this author was there. He said he was on top of the world. Everything was perfect. But when Jesus came into his life and offered him forgiveness it completely changed him. The straiined relationships in his life were restored. He found a happiness that he hadn't even dreamed of before.

Bennett writes of his personal experience. Say "good for him" if you want. Say "I am happy enough, thank you very much". But you cannot say, "I'm just as happy as he is" because you just don't know.

135 posted on 07/23/2002 7:24:05 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Bump
136 posted on 07/23/2002 8:03:38 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: ThirstyMan; EdReform; AppyPappy; LarryLied
Just know that this author was there. He said he was on top of the world. Everything was perfect. But when Jesus came into his life and offered him forgiveness it completely changed him. The straiined relationships in his life were restored. He found a happiness that he hadn't even dreamed of before. Bennett writes of his personal experience. Say "good for him" if you want. Say "I am happy enough, thank you very much". But you cannot say, "I'm just as happy as he is" because you just don't know.

I just want you to know that this is the most profound statement I have read on this thread. Statesmanlike, honest and complete. No one could ever argue or dismiss this point.

137 posted on 07/23/2002 8:40:06 PM PDT by Republic
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To: Emmylou
Well, I disagree with you about homosexuality being a serious mental disorder. But yes, you have every right to protect your kids and raise them as you see fit.

Most people consider the desire of a man to make love to another man's rump to be a serious disorder. You may not, but most people do. Most people consider such to be filthy and disgusting and highly perverted from the purpose of reproduction. Feces are full of germs, the rectum is clearly not designed for the use to which homosexual men put it, etc. etc. I'm not saying that people shouldn't have the right to do so if they want - just like a man can make love to his cows in his barn if he wants. But you can see why I don't want my kids to learn about such stuff.

138 posted on 07/23/2002 8:53:29 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: JohnHuang2
One of the better articles about the complex pathogens leading to the homosexual syndrome.

Nice catch, JH2; tx.

139 posted on 07/23/2002 11:22:46 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: EdReform
"Pedophilia is a sexual-orientation, like heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality, etc..."

I think I'll reserve my comments and simply wait to see if this sick b*stard actually tries it. Then I can have a "discussion" with him about it.

These people need to be identified, pursued and locked away in the furthest, darkest rat-infested hole we can find, and I'm not talking about San Francisco.

140 posted on 07/24/2002 2:27:08 AM PDT by Caipirabob
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To: Quester
Yeah, I agree. I'm just sick of hearing that "b" word. (Balance) I'd rather say "go for it all" and have the balance sort itself out.
141 posted on 07/24/2002 4:56:00 AM PDT by Little Bush
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To: EdReform
Notice the similarities between the Pedophile Agenda and the Homosexual Agenda? Exactly! It is sickening.
142 posted on 07/24/2002 7:01:12 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Republic
In my view the correct terminology is indeed SSAD. Everything about it is sad and as I challenge defenders of the perversion "name me one good or positive thing which comes from homosexuality?"
143 posted on 07/24/2002 9:04:57 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: JohnHuang2; *Homosexual Agenda
The International Organization of Heterosexual Rights
144 posted on 07/26/2002 12:32:54 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: JohnHuang2
Stephen Bennett is a very brave man. God bless him.
145 posted on 07/29/2002 6:23:35 AM PDT by pray4liberty
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To: Emmylou
But what about people who are comfortable and fulfilled in gay relationships?

Then they should keep their private business to themselves. Believe me, no one else is really all that interested in hearing about it.

146 posted on 07/29/2002 6:40:31 AM PDT by pray4liberty
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To: Emmylou
If you choose not to keep your private life private, don't cry foul if some people don't appreciate it...after all, "it's a free country" and they, too, have the right to think whatever they want of you.
148 posted on 07/30/2002 6:05:50 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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To: Emmylou
Why don't these ex-gays keep their private business to themselves?

Maybe because they found a happiness and peace that they want some of their (currently gay) friends to share? Perhaps not everyone is going to agree, but then again, here's a way to prove tolerance for differing ideas.

149 posted on 07/30/2002 6:30:04 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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To: Quester

As an American Muslim who thought he was “gay” his entire life, I found this helpful.

thank you,

may God help us all.


150 posted on 09/20/2011 6:56:49 PM PDT by kupo717
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