Yeah. OK. ;-)
Posted on 07/23/2002 10:32:36 AM PDT by kattracks
18 posted on 7/23/02 11:00 AM Pacific by Mr_Magoo
Agree with you Mr Magoo...but if your eyesight is as bad as I've heard, and as bad as mine...get a vision test first!
FMCDH
Quiet Please.
Government beaureaucrats studying the following problem:
If a commercial airliner carry X passengers and crew where hijacked in mid flight,would it be wiser to shoot the plane down, or have the pilot shoot and kill the hijacker(s), then safely land the plane?
Add the unknown variable Y.
Y represents your daughter is on the flight.
Now solve for X.
Use of calculators is prohibited.
850 million??? 250 million a year?!?! Where the heck are they buying their diamond studded solid platinum guns!?!? Much cheaper deals can be found on Gunbroker!!!
Yeah. Sure. With him opposed to it, gungrabbing scumbag Demoncrat that he is, I'm just sure they're "Studying" it.
What he's doing is trying to come up with some way to forestall the legislation that Clowngress has now passed, so that he can maintain bureaucratic control of the situation. If he (and Bush? Hello... Mr. President? Where *exactly* are you on this issue?) can keep the legislation from passing by "Getting Out Front" on it, Clinton style, they can just bury the reforms by dodging, weaving, and stonewalling while we peasants slowly "forget" about the issue (supposedly - don't count your chickens, chickens).
Norman (fee-e-e-lings) Mineta needs to hear from the public that it is time to think, instead of whatever he has been doing!
I think it's time for him to follow McGaw. I think it's time for him to be a good little Demoncrat and "Move On". I think it's time for him to go back to Hell with the rest of the Demoncrats.
I'm currently a commercial pilot applicant, does this mean that when I finish my course, and pass my DE checkride, I can pack heat on any airplane that I'm a PIC or SIC?
It's actually not a bad way to go, because they'll be shielded from frivolous lawsuits and - perhaps more importantly - from retaliation by their employers, the airlines (who would happily sacrifice our safety for real security by imposing bogus "security checkpoints" and other forms of harrassment while collecting billions in federal "loans").
Arming Pilots Against Terrorism Act - Amends Federal law to direct the Under Secretary of Transportation for Security (in the Transportation Security Administration) to establish a two-year pilot program to: (1) deputize volunteer pilots of air carriers as Federal law enforcement officers to defend the flight decks of aircraft against acts of criminal violence or air piracy (Federal flight deck officers); and (2) provide training, supervision, and equipment for such officers.
(Sec. 2) Requires the Under Secretary to begin the process of training and deputizing qualified pilots to be Federal flight deck officers under the program. Allows the Under Secretary to request another Federal agency to deputize such officers.
Directs the Under Secretary to authorize flight deck officers to carry firearms and to use force, including lethal force, according to standards and circumstances the Under Secretary prescribes. Shields air carriers from liability for damages in Federal or State court arising out of a Federal flight deck officer's use of or failure to use a firearm. Shields flight deck officers from liability for acts or omissions in defending the flight deck of an aircraft against acts of criminal violence or air piracy, except in cases of gross negligence or willful misconduct.
Declares that if an accidental discharge of a firearm results in the injury or death of a passenger or crew member on the aircraft, the Under Secretary: (1) shall revoke the deputization of the responsible Federal flight deck officer if such discharge was attributable to the officer's negligence; and (2) may temporarily suspend the pilot program if the Under Secretary determines that a shortcoming in standards, training, or procedures was responsible for the accidental discharge.
Prohibits an air carrier from prohibiting or threatening any retaliatory action against a pilot for becoming a Federal flight deck officer.
Declares the sense of Congress that the Federal air marshal program is critical to aviation security, and that nothing in this Act shall be construed as preventing the Under Secretary from implementing and training Federal air marshals.
(Sec. 3) Directs the Under Secretary, in updating the guidance for training flight and cabin crews, to issue a rule to: (1) require both classroom and effective hands-on situational training in specified elements of self-defense; (2) require training in the proper conduct of a cabin search, including the duty time required to conduct it; (3) establish the required number of hours of training and the qualifications for training instructors; (4) establish the intervals, number of hours, and elements of recurrent training; and (5) ensure that air carriers provide the initial training within 24 months of the enactment of this Act. Directs the Under Secretary to designate an official in the Transportation Security Administration to be responsible for overseeing the implementation of the training program.
Amends the Aviation and Transportation Security Act to authorize the Under Secretary to take certain enhanced security measures, including to require that air carriers provide flight attendants with a discreet, hands-free, wireless method of communicating with the pilot of an aircraft.
Directs the Under Secretary to study and report to Congress on the benefits and risks of providing flight attendants with nonlethal weapons to aide in combating air piracy and criminal violence on commercial airlines.
(Sec. 4) Directs the Secretary of Transportation to study and report within six months to Congress on: (1) the number of armed Federal law enforcement officers (other than Federal air marshals) who travel on commercial airliners annually, and the frequency of their travel; (2) the cost and resources necessary to provide such officers with supplemental aircraft anti-terrorism training comparable to the training that Federal air marshals receive; (3) the cost of establishing a program at a Federal law enforcement training center for the purpose of providing new Federal law enforcement recruits with standardized training comparable to Federal air marshal training; (4) the feasibility of implementing a certification program designed to ensure Federal law enforcement officers have completed aircraft anti-terrorism training, and track their travel over a six-month period; and (5) the feasibility of staggering the flights of such officers to ensure the maximum amount of flights have a certified trained Federal officer on board.
(Sec. 5) Amends Federal aviation law to require the Under Secretary to respond within 90 days of receiving a request from an air carrier for authorization to allow pilots of the air carrier to carry less-than-lethal weapons.
I had just thought about $200 USD per person should do it when I read your post. In Texas you can get a concealed handgun training course for about $100 USD to teach you the law. You then need to pass a shooting test and given that the average distance from pilot to door is less than 10 feet you don't need to be real good!
Even if they buy every pilot a gun it still comes to about $700 USD per person TOTAL!
for a free dixie,sw
for dixie,sw
when i lived in another state years ago, ANYONE with 5 bucks got a CCW there,with no questions asked.
THAT is NOT a good plan-i want every CCW holder to be able to shoot SAFELY & straight!
for dixie,sw
Yeah. OK. ;-)
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