[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

It is all about the environmentalists and their vote!

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[azsportsterman]

The automakers should produce cars for the rest of the US market and develop dealership-installed kits for the Kali market. The dealers could install the kits and markup the price accordingly. The diffence in price between Kali cars and cars in neighboring states would allow the Kali-consumers to see the true monetary cost of the law their legislature passed. How long do you think it would take to repeal the law?

[biblewonk]

"Federal law and common sense prohibit each state from developing its own fuel economy standards,"

Surely no proper conservative would be ok with this. A conservative should applaud California for doing something it's own way instead of the way the Federal Gmt wants.

[John Jorsett]

If I were a resident of another state and wanted to move with my SUV to California, would they refuse to register my car? Seems like this would have a tough time passing constitutional muster.

I think attempting to get this thrown out by the courts is a dumb strategy. They'd be much smarter to go the initiative route. They could easily get the signatures needed to put this on the ballot, and I get it'd be defeated. Even if it weren't they'd still have the court strategy to fall back on. I wonder why they've chosen not to get this put before the voters.

[edger]

The auto manufacturers are paying lawyers anyway. Why not let them struggle a little in court? If they weren't doing that, they would just be doing something else.

If I were an auto manufacturer, I would ignore California's silly laws. I would provide a few completely electric cars or fuel cell cars at $50k to $80k a pop. I would make my standard cars available in Las Vegas and let Californians buy them and try to import them.

[Fredgoblu]

Idea #1.

(I know, this is really radical...but...)

How about creating incentives for people to drive lower-emitting cars? How, you ask? Try this...currently, the cost of registering your car is based on the value of the car. Instead of that, base the cost of registration on the grams/mile of emissions produced by the car (and the year-over-year odometer reading). A model T might cost you $10,000 per year to register, while an EV-1 might cost you $250-$500 per year.

Keep in mind that there is no such thing as zero emission automotive transportation. Even an electric car requires emissions at the point of electricity generation.

So, we'd have to save that $0 registration fee for some yet-to-be invented solar or wind-powered car.

[Fredgoblu]

Idea #2.

This is for the entrepreneurs out there...

Buy a couple acres of desert in Nevada, and subdivide it into 1 square foot parcels, complete with their own postal addresses.

Sell individual parcels to Californians, register their cars to that address, and send them home to California with brand new Nevada license plates on their acceptable-emissions-in-49-state cars.

[Redleg Duke]

I think the automakers ought to boycott Kalifornicatia.

[Fredgoblu]

Idea #3.

Leave the state and join the rest of us rational folks in the other 49 states. Once the tax revenues dry up, they'll come crying for our/your business again.

[KSCITYBOY]

Automakers should sell only electric cars to anyone living in CA and charge them out the wazooo for them. By then CA will probably have outlawed all but wind power.

[Nowhere Man]

I used to be really mad at the idea of Mexico taking Kalifornia back, now I'd be happy if they did. B-P

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

Kalifornia causes its own problems,most of which are imaginary.It is absolutely amazing at how easily taken-in these people are!

[Lockbox]

European estuaries are significant natural sources of atmospheric carbon dioxide

As scientists try to determine what impact human activity is having on the carbon dioxide load in the atmosphere, it's necessary to track natural carbon dioxide sources as well. In "Carbon Dioxide Emission From European Estuaries," M. Frankignoulle, G. Abril, A. Borges, I. Bourge, C. Canon, B. Delille, E. Libert and J.-M. Thate at U. de Lige in Lige, Belgium, show that European estuaries are significant natural sources of atmospheric carbon dioxide.

Estuaries are rich marine ecosystems that are created when freshwater mixes with saltwater. The authors measured CO2 emissions from nine European estuaries and found that they emit between 30 and 60 million tons of carbon per year to the atmosphere.

That represents 5 to 10 percent of the total amount of carbon dioxide emissions from human activity in Western Europe. The largest amounts of CO2 occurred in the upper estuary, where there is low salinity and a decrease in saturated oxygen. Although there is limited data available, the authors expect high carbon amounts to be reflected in other estuaries around the world.

http://www.gaiabooks.co.uk/environment/carbonandclimate.html

Natural sources of carbon dioxide emissions range from volcanic eruptions to the aerobic digestion of decayed vegetation by soil bacteria.

http://www.wri.org/wri/wr-96-97/ac_txt3.html

Carbon dioxide is released to the atmosphere by a variety of sources, and over 95% percent of these emissions would occur even if human beings were not present on Earth. For example, the natural decay of organic material in forests and grasslands, such as dead trees, results in the release of about 220 billion tons of carbon dioxide every year.

http://www.gcrio.org/ipcc/qa/05.html