[dasein64]

If $18,000 is considered the living standard for a family of four at this point in time, will it not be raised as the living wage forces business to raise their prices to cover the additional costs? Then the spiral starts all over. The elastic living wage, with little or no ties to job value, ratchets up again. After the gold laying goose is crushed, what then? Full blown SOCIALISM. We are pretty much there already.

[parsifal]

Oh posh! Socialism? Who do you think is paying the difference in minwages and what it costs to live at present? Go look in the mirror. Its you and me, the taxpayer. An increase to living wages simply puts the burden back where it belongs, the employer. I am far too selfish to wish to continue subsidizing McDonalds and WalMart. parsy the incredibly selfish freeper.