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Virus strikes VIA Rail passengers
Vancouver Sun ^ | July 22, 2002 | Jake Kennedy

Posted on 07/23/2002 3:29:11 PM PDT by Freebird Forever

Wave of illness aboard Vancouver-bound train brings nausea, vomiting

Health Canada officials are investigating after a wave of illness broke out among people aboard a Vancouver-bound VIA Rail train last week.

Although VIA Rail officials could not confirm the number of people affected, an American passenger hit by the illness said Sunday that dozens developed nausea, vomiting and diarrhea.

"It's the sickest I've ever been," said Antoinette Renshaw, 55, who boarded the VIA Rail Canadian train in Toronto on July 16.

She said in an interview Sunday that several hours after departure, rumours began to circulate that crew members were falling ill.

When the train reached Winnipeg on the afternoon of July 17, Renshaw said the train was boarded by a crew of people wearing black smocks.

"We called them the men in black," she said. The workers walked around the train, spraying and wiping down surfaces.

"They said they were spraying places that people touched," Renshaw said.

Later that evening, Renshaw noticed a letter posted near her sleeper car.

"It said that a communicable disease was aboard the train, and it was also affecting airlines, buses, and other places where people congregate," she said.

Renshaw began to worry. She spoke to other passengers, many of whom were beginning to feel gastrointestinal upsets, to see if they knew what was happening, but most hadn't even seen the letter. Speaking to VIA employees, she said, was just as frustrating.

"I asked them for a copy of the letter, and they wouldn't give me one," she said. "They weren't very helpful."

About 24 hours after Renshaw got off the train in Jasper, where she was meeting a friend, she began to feel ill. Renshaw said she vomited for 12 hours, and was in intense pain.

Health Canada confirmed Sunday that it is looking at the rash of illness aboard the train.

"An investigation by occupational and environmental health officials is under way," said Health Canada spokesman Blair Parkhurst.

VIA Rail spokeswoman Kelly Thomas said that as a result of the outbreak, two passenger cars were taken off the tracks, and cleaned thoroughly.

The symptoms experienced by passengers and crew aboard the train, she said, are consistent with those of Norwalk-like viruses. The symptoms include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, muscle aches, headaches, fatigue and fevers.

The viruses are spread when food that is not cooked is handled by infected people who did not wash their hands after using the washroom, by consuming water contaminated by sewage or by consuming ice made from contaminated water, and from shellfish harvested from sewage-contaminated water.

Asked why passengers weren't given more information, she said she had been told the crew was briefed and should have been able to answer questions.

Because symptoms may not occur for up to 24 to 48 hours after exposure, VIA is asking anyone who experienced symptoms after boarding the train to phone 1-800-561-8630.

Meanwhile, Renshaw, who had planned to continue her train journey to Vancouver, then take the train home to where she lives near Tacoma, Wash., has changed her mind.

She said Sunday she'll fly home from Alberta instead.

"My rail pass home was paid for, but I'd rather pay a last-minute one-way fare home to avoid taking the train," she said. "I'm not stepping on that damn train again."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; norwalk; train; virus
Did a search and couldn't find this posted yet.
1 posted on 07/23/2002 3:29:12 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: Freebird Forever
"It said that a communicable disease was aboard the train, and it was also affecting airlines, buses, and other places where people congregate," she said.

Seen anything on these other cases?

2 posted on 07/23/2002 3:38:40 PM PDT by per loin
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To: per loin
Seen anything on these other cases?

No. This is the only information I've run across so far. Either it was just a localized contamination or someone put a lid on the story real quick.

3 posted on 07/23/2002 4:18:18 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: Freebird Forever
Ping me if you run across more info. I'll do same to you.
4 posted on 07/23/2002 4:53:37 PM PDT by per loin
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To: per loin
Ping me also please.
5 posted on 07/23/2002 6:36:15 PM PDT by Fire_on_High
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To: per loin
Ping me also please.
6 posted on 07/23/2002 6:36:18 PM PDT by Fire_on_High
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To: Freebird Forever; Nogbad; keri; The Great Satan; Shermy
Wasn't Norwalk virus the "mystery virus" that was afflicting British troops in Afghanistan?

I also wondee if there's any connection with the grounding of people with foreign pilot's licenses (was there a warning of some sort?).

7 posted on 07/23/2002 7:26:36 PM PDT by Mitchell
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Wasn't Norwalk virus the "mystery virus" that was afflicting British troops in Afghanistan?

I also wondee if there's any connection with the grounding of people with foreign pilot's licenses (was there a warning of some sort?).

8 posted on 07/23/2002 7:26:37 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Mitchell
Norwalk Virus

The virus seems to be common.

9 posted on 07/23/2002 7:34:27 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Freebird Forever
The symptoms include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, muscle aches, headaches, fatigue and fevers.

Is there a Taco Bell in the train station? That stuff will hurt you.

10 posted on 07/23/2002 7:56:55 PM PDT by Semper911
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To: Mitchell
Sorry for the duplicate post. And, wondee = wonder.
(I'd never tried posting from a PDA before.)
11 posted on 07/23/2002 8:41:41 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Shermy
The virus seems to be common.

Yes, but the story is bizarre:

When the train reached Winnipeg on the afternoon of July 17, Renshaw said the train was boarded by a crew of people wearing black smocks.

"We called them the men in black," she said. The workers walked around the train, spraying and wiping down surfaces.

"They said they were spraying places that people touched," Renshaw said.

Later that evening, Renshaw noticed a letter posted near her sleeper car.

"It said that a communicable disease was aboard the train, and it was also affecting airlines, buses, and other places where people congregate," she said.
Is there any confirmation of this story in any other media report?
12 posted on 07/23/2002 8:44:20 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Freebird Forever
The Norwalk Agent is similar to the virus that causes Parvovirus enteritis in dogs and Panleukopenia in cats. This virus mutates about every 20 years into another species. This Norwalk agent has broken out on passenger liners before with the same effects and even some mortality. The virus is a 32nm Icosahedral single stranded DNA virus that is a real easy virus to transmit from one individual to another. When the virus first mutated from cats into dogs in 1978, we could not grow the virus in the lab until someone hit upon the idea of growing the virus in cat origin cells. That was the first clue that the virus was a mutant from the cat virus, Panleukopenia. At first there were three distinct variants of the virus from that mutation but now there are only two left. This is what is going on with the human virus also, this virus mutates from time to time with variable pathogenicity. I remember that the Norwalk agent broke loose in a children's ward in Connecticut in the late 1960's and several children died. The hospital was quarantined for some time. If it is your time, its just your time it seems.
13 posted on 07/23/2002 8:55:57 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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On re-reading, I see that I misread the report. I had thought that people were seen spraying surfaces before the outbreak (making the whole thing suspicious), but it seems that, in fact, they were trying to decontaminate the train after the outbreak started.

This probably was just another natural outbreak of Norwalk virus, which isn't uncommon.

Sorry for wasting your time on this story.

14 posted on 07/23/2002 11:33:05 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Freebird Forever
There is no time to incubate a virus on a train ride. Somehow enough virus was released in one train to affect many passengers. Modern trains have good ventlation, so the only thing I can think of is a deliberate release. This virus is caught by injestion not inhalation. It also is a mutating virus, perfect for germ warfare experiments.

Police do not have to wear face masks to clean up spills, the men wiping down the touching surfaces therefore were not the police but the terrorists.

Not to worry, move on folks, pay no attention to the men in black..

15 posted on 07/23/2002 11:34:51 PM PDT by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel; Mitchell; vetvetdoug; Shermy
Thanks for your input & background information.
16 posted on 07/24/2002 3:20:10 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
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