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CONSERVATIVES TURN ON ASHCROFT
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| 07/23/2002
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Posted on 07/23/2002 6:07:53 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: sinkspur
You must be a Yankee.Better watch that attitude, boy, or I won't let you park your sorry pick-up in my backyard when you have to refugee out of Texas after the Great Chicano Uprising of `05....
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posted on
07/23/2002 6:55:36 PM PDT
by
Arleigh
To: maxwellp
Why do you have a problem? I'm asking seriously. And I'm also curious.
Likewise, what do you think these people will find in a terrorists residence?
I think people have the notion that the cable guy will stroll in and see an amateur SAM site in their living room or something.
Plus, the whole thing is pretty subjective. If I do the credit card processing and arbitrarily decide that you buy too much gunpowder, do you deserve to have your door kicked in as a result of this?
The potential for abuse is huge and as it is now anyone with a complaint or a concern can call the police and take their whacks if it turns out to be a false report.
Plus, there is some concern about them databasing this information and profiling people based on pure speculation. If your house get's raided on one of these "tips" then do you know who squealed on you? Will your database entry be deleted or cleared? Or will it have a "well, we didn't get him this time" notation tossed in there somewhere? Will the mail carrier get mad and narc on you because you didn't give him a christmas gift? Or because you cut him off in traffic?
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posted on
07/23/2002 6:55:43 PM PDT
by
Jhoffa_
To: Pokey78
This is such a bunch of garbage. 'Blistering' - I see nothing in this that supports the 'All the Conservative Religious are against him.'
This sounds like such a hit job. I would be curious to see these 'religious' former-backers debate any judgement flaws he is perceived to have committed as immoral or ungodly or a reproach to his Christian testimony.
To: TJFLSTRAT
So when I'm making a delivery at the Port of Tampa, ans I see some middle eastern looking individuals hanging arounf the Ammonium Nitrate pipe lines, I should just keep my mouth shut...right?????That seems to be the gist of it. I'm not in favor a massive government payroll of paid informers but I sure the hell ain't opposed to supplying a website and a telephone number to report guys 18-44, resembling the 20 guys who flew those planes, casing out the local nuclear plant.
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posted on
07/23/2002 6:56:28 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: maxwellp
but you don't know exactly what THEY will be looking for.....you have nothing to hide?....what about your guns, where they are,,,,are they "proper" according to regulations you may never have heard of....etc. stc. etc.....you have nothing to hide?.....now,,, what about tomorrow?......get govt. off our back?....what ever happened to that one ON PRINCIPLE?....off our back and into the front door....what changes an airplane can make
To: maxwellp
Why do you have a problem? I'm asking seriously. And I'm also curious. Anyone that I invite into my home - an electrician, the UPS man, a plumber, etc. will find nothing to incriminate me or my family being terrorists. I agree. Only those who have something to hide should be afraid of being searched at any time by marginally trained pseudo-police.
To: Arleigh; RJCogburn
Rat on that pesty neighbor whose dog craps on your lawn. Make allegations against that creep your daughter's been seeing. Yo, Arlo. You can do that NOW!
RJ, the list of FReepers who disagree with you is almost as long as the list of FReepers who disagree with me.
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posted on
07/23/2002 6:56:48 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: Pokey78
KOOKS TURN ON ASHCROFT!
developing...
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posted on
07/23/2002 6:56:49 PM PDT
by
mrsmith
To: Arleigh
prove it
69
posted on
07/23/2002 6:57:04 PM PDT
by
TLBSHOW
To: Jhoffa_
When he was just clothing naked statues with taxpayer funds I thought Ashcroft was just an expensive flake.I actually defended him when he was clothing naked statues. I wouldn't ncessarily want to be photographed in front of a naked statue either. This TIPS nonsense, is a different story. It has no place in America.
To: sinkspur
RJ, the list of FReepers who disagree with you is almost as long as the list of FReepers who disagree with me.Mine's bigger %^)
To: southern rock
There has to be someone there to answer it, doesn't there? Your tax $$$ at work.Do you actually think that a person sitting at the end of a phone line receiving tips fro American citizens about possible skells trying to kill other American citizens is a bad use of tax money?
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posted on
07/23/2002 6:59:14 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: southern rock
I agree, I didn't think he should have had little loin cloths or whatever made for them with our money, but I can see why he did it.
He was embarrassed because some reporter got that shot of him with a big boob over his sholder.. So I didn't give him allot of grief over it at the time either.
73
posted on
07/23/2002 7:00:06 PM PDT
by
Jhoffa_
To: RJCogburn
RJ, could you provide me a link to the massive new government program so I can see for myself just what it entails?
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posted on
07/23/2002 7:00:51 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: Jhoffa_
If I do the credit card processing and arbitrarily decide that you buy too much gunpowder, do you deserve to have your door kicked in as a result of this? If I do the credit card processing, I can turn you in for gunpowder purchases NOW.
The hysteria on this site over what amounts to a Neighborhood Watch program is, well, hysterical.
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posted on
07/23/2002 7:01:48 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: jwalsh07
Do you actually think that a person sitting at the end of a phone line receiving tips fro American citizens about possible skells trying to kill other American citizens is a bad use of tax money? Yes. It is not a legitimate federal power.
To: maxwellp
Anyone that I invite into my home - an electrician, the UPS man, a plumber, etc. will find nothing to incriminate me or my family being terrorists.
Consider the Clinton's having the power of Operation TIPS.
Consider that once you open your door for snoopy repairmen over terrorism, will it necessarily end there?
Just because you have nothing to hide... does that mean that someone might not mention that you had a copy of the Koran (for research) and the latest issue of Guns and Ammo on your end table?
And consider this... raw, unvetted FBI files.
To: sinkspur
The hysteria on this site over what amounts to a Neighborhood Watch program is, well, hysterical. Please show me, where in the constitution, the federal government is granted the power to run a federal neighborhood watch program.
To: jwalsh07
To: TC Rider
BTW, did you know we're at war? Did you know there are thousands of terrorists in America? Do you know where they'll strike next?So many here on this forum seem to forget this
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posted on
07/23/2002 7:04:20 PM PDT
by
Kaslin
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