Posted on 07/24/2002 7:17:43 AM PDT by white trash redneck
Then, in September 2001 (only five days, in fact, before the destruction of the World Trade Center), the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet reported that 65 percent of rapes of Norwegian women were performed by "non-Western" immigrants–a category that, in Norway, consists mostly of Muslims. The article quoted a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo (who was described as having "lived for many years in Muslim countries") as saying that "Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes" because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. One reason for the high number of rapes by Muslims, explained the professor, was that in their native countries "rape is scarcely punished," since Muslims "believe that it is women who are responsible for rape." The professor’s conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: "Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it."
This sums it up:
As for those who, after a period in the West, make it obvious that they are unwilling or unable to adapt, they must be sent home and replaced by deserving individuals who can adapt. This may appear extreme, but there is no reasonable alternative. For at stake in all this, ultimately, are the basic freedoms of all Westerners–not only women and homosexuals, but everyone, including Muslims and former Muslims who wish to live in a place where they can be themselves. At stake, indeed, is Western civilization.
"If fundamentalist Muslims in Europe do not carry out these punishments, it is not because they've advanced beyond such thinking, but because they don't have the power"......Yet!
The First Amendment is a live-and-let-live doctrine.The founders of this Republic had differences to overcome, and they instituted the transcending of those differences. America is consequently, by design, a place to get past differences which would have much more tendency to lead to bloodshed elsewhere than they (in fact) do here.
That is not to say that that transcending tendency is unbounded. We also, historically, have had segregation and internment camps for Japanese during WWII, and the removal of Indian tribes. It is not a given that al Qaeda will fail in its attempt to cause us to treat Muslims similarly. That indeed is their objective.
Long read but facinating.
It seems the Euros have a choice, to allow themselves and their culture to be over run by these Islamic Fundamentalists or to draw a line in the sand and say "Enough is enough".
Sadly, I think they will choose the first course until the Natives are under direct seige.
Then it will REALLY hit the fan...
Cheers,
knews hound
So many nuggets of truth, including "If fundamentalist Muslims in Europe do not carry out these punishments, it is not because they’ve advanced beyond such thinking, but because they don’t have the power." ----If one browses through Islamic society web sites in the US, one will note the urgent, ubiquitous calls to enter into politics and gain political power.
Right. And many of them will also find themselves without firearms.
For this reason, large-scale immigration–of the right kind–could be a very positive thing for northern Europe.
This is an interesting part of the article. The author's opinon is that national identity = ethnic identity is bad. This is, no doubt, the view of the Euro-Socialist Elites. But is it the view of the average Dane? Is there something morally superior about a massively multi-ethnic nation (USA) over a narrowly ethnic one (Norway?). Let's face it for the last 1000 years people from Norway have been Norweigens, you know large kinda boney ultra-light skinned blonds with blue/grey eyes. The speak Norweigen and eat weird Norweigen food, and all the rest. Is there something WRONG with this? Is this historical happenstance which, for everyone's good, must be overthrown by massive immigration until Norway is as polygot as the USA. Why? Does some post-Christian morality require it.
The passing reference to Nazism does not add clarity. Is the lesson of WWII for Europeans that ethnicity has no value? Or that nations can not remain based on ethicity and ethnic national culture? Because surely there is a huge divide between saying "Norway is a Norweigen country" and the horrors of deathcamps. One does not follow the other.
Or, as much as the Europeans hate to admit it, is the entire concept of an ethnic nation now obsolete and morally wrong. Only the American model of a ethnically diverse country is valid. Thus Norway must die, to be replaced by Europa and Europa herself must invite in the millions of unwashed to save her from her ethinic isolation. This seems to be the implied message of this article and much of the thinking of the Euro Socialist Elite.
I have seen very few people on FreeRepublic, over several years, caring at all about this. I have seen many who -- let's put this as minimally and as calmly as possible -- aren't very bothered by it.
One has to wonder at the virulence of some FR posters' opposition to fundamentalist Islam. It seems to be doing an efficient job of eliminating some of the very people, with different sexual orientations, that these posters utterly detest. Many devout Muslims in Western Europe seem to be prepared, and eager, to carry on this tradition.
Could it be that the brutal deaths of 3,000-odd, mostly Christian, Americans last September 11 would finally induce making changes in the Mideast, of attitudes or governments, that would end up allowing a few thousand homosexuals to stay alive after all? And that some people, in these discussion precincts, might actually support such an incidental outcome? ... I doubt it.
I completely agree with you. There's no reason Norway shouldn't remain Norwegian, if that's what Norwegians want. This idea that one is morally obtuse for wanting such is complete bunk. Diversity at all costs has become the great new religion, even if those costs mean losing everything great and good that (formerly) was Norwegian (or Danish, or French). I don't think most Europeans want to lose their ethnic identifies - they've just been brainwashed into thinking there's something wrong with them if they say so. It's time they find their voices, before they don't count anymore.
Not to be seen on American TV.
"Since then, the intensification of the conflict in the Mideast has muddied the waters to some extent–not only in Norway but throughout much of Western Europe, where the intellectual and media establishment have long proffered a black-and-white image of Palestinians as victims and Israelis as aggressors."
Ah, yes. The increased blowing up Jews was a big rallying cry for the Euroleft to ignore their problems and displace them to an older obsession.
Then, in September 2001 (only five days, in fact, before the destruction of the World Trade Center), the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet reported that 65 percent of rapes of Norwegian women were performed by "non-Western" immigrants–a category that, in Norway, consists mostly of Muslims.
I wonder if Europe can awaken in time to save itself? At least I hope that the USA will learn from Europe's bitter lesson in "tolerance" toward even those who come to convert or slaughter them.
Fair enough, Greybird. I detest homosexuality (though I don't blame people for suffering from it). It's cruel and abhorrent and wrong to kill people for such.
Precisely! And it is an ideology cloaked in religion, not unlike Communism was cloaked in fundamentalist atheism. And also like Communism, it is one soaked in blood.
A great many of these people are dangerous, and extremely so and it is hard to tell the players without actually getting inside their heads. Their world-view has nothing to do with ours or our heritage. Their stated fanatical desire is to gain control over us so they can enforce their views and laws on us.
It has been said many times before on this forum and I'll say it again: we need to round up and deport all non-citizen Muslims immediately for our own safety. Those left who have managed to become citizens (or have converted) then need close watching until proven safe. Still, we may never know for sure. But at least we'll have eradicated a weighty part of the threat!
We are flirting with a national bloodbath here (much worse than the first one at the Pentagon and WTC) if we don't take common sense action now for our national protection. If it hurts a few feelings, well, so what? That will hurt a lot less than the death and destruction that wait just around the corner! We are eventually going to have to do it anyway. We may as well do it now and prevent untold suffering, death and grief.
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