[billbears]

I agree, but it's never been as bad or as out in the open and fully supported by the general government as it is now. I've yet to see any politicians (except maybe for Ron Paul) actually come out against this. The problem is it's very hard to fight against. They're using security as an issue. We're just trying to protect you and the sheep are falling in line quickly. It's organized, that's another major difference, organized at a level I think that may have been suggested in the past but never fully implemented

[phasma proeliator]

I disagree.

the ATF and FBI have been doing this for years... (along with local law enforcement).

all are government supported and security and "protection" has always been the B.S. story. it's not organized - if anything it's less organized.