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Wednesday, 7/24, Market WrapUp (What a difference a day makes!)
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| 07/24/2002
| by Scott Middleton
Posted on 07/24/2002 4:44:04 PM PDT by Lazamataz
Weekday Commentary from Scott Middleton Home
What a difference a day makes!
"Volatile markets move on news and emotion." Jim Puplava, 7/23/02 Note: Reuters stories at end Commentary!
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Market WrapUp for the Week Monday l Tuesday l Wednesday l Thursday l Friday
Wednesday's Stock Market WrapUp Capitulation? A day like today sure does make it seem like all is well in the financial markets. It was almost as if everyone just put on their happy face at about mid-morning and let it grow as the day went on. Well, maybe not everybody. Anyone who was short the market probably wasnt smiling when the bell rang at 1:00pm EDT. Contrarian sentiment believes that when the masses talk of impending doom you have reached capitulation and the current trend should reverse itself. Case in point, yesterday you couldnt find a positive quote on the markets, anywhere. Where as today, previous predictions of the demise of the American financial system were greatly exaggerated. Herein is a collection of quotes from various experts as posted in many of todays market wraps: ``Anyone who buys now is going to be surprised at how well they've done a year from now,'' said Stanley Nabi, who helps oversee $57 billion at Credit Suisse Asset Management. ``There is a buying panic,'' said George Mairs, who manages $700 million at Mairs & Power Inc. in St. Paul, Minnesota. ``People are jumping to get in because they don't want to miss the bottom. No one is prepared to say the bear market has ended, but the magnitude of this rally is very impressive.'' ``If you can remove your mind from the corporate bashing of the day and focus on fundamentals, stocks are cheap,'' said Robert Phillips, who helps oversee $800 million at Walnut Asset Management in Philadelphia. Credit Suisse's Nabi said stocks would be fairly valued if the S&P 500 traded at about 22 times the $52 in per-share earnings he expects for the coming 12 months. The index now trades at about 16 times that profit estimate. Richard Dickson of Hilliard Lyons notes that "Waterfall price declines accompanied by very heavy volume are, historically, very reliable indications of market bottoms. Most recently, the two best examples occurred in October 1987 and again in September 2001. Whether the current example proves to be a third remains to be seen, but we think chances are good that it will," he said. "Overall, we would be making a list of stocks to buy right now. Each one of these quotes seems awfully optimistic given ongoing market conditions. Luckily for anyone giving the quotes they wont be held accountable for their statements. Todays Financial Markets The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 488.95, or 6.4 percent, to 8191.29. That was its second-biggest point gain. The S&P 500 jumped 45.73, or 5.7 percent, to 843.43. Both had their largest percentage advance since rebounding from the crash in October 1987. The Nasdaq Composite Index added 61.18, or 5 percent, to 1290.23. The New York Stock Exchange had its busiest day, with trading exceeding 2.7 billion shares, according to preliminary figures. More than four stocks rose for every three that fell on the Big Board and the Nasdaq Stock Market. Treasury Market The 10-year Treasury note tumbled 13/32 to yield 4.46 percent while the 30-year government bond slid 1 point to yield 5.345 percent. © Copyright Scott Middleton, July 24, 2002 |
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To: Lazamataz
Interesting comment from a client of Trend Macro (Don Luskins outfit) -
Ashby Foote, Vector Money Management 5:45 PM "DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES?" ......... A sure sign that a bottom was close at hand came Monday night when Maria Bartoromo on her evening show interviewed Al Michaels, one of the great sports announcers, almost as good as Chris Berman. Michaels evidently is an avid and successful investor. Significantly, the last 80% of the interview focused on short selling and how Michaels identified good candidates for shorting. cheers, ashby
Remeber the Joseph Kennedy story from 1929. He knew it was time to sell when he started getting tips from his shoe shine boy.
To: Lazamataz
This morning I was listening to the 'Opening Bell' on a local AM station on the way to work. A Morgan Stanley analyst came on and babbled on about investor sentiment. The announcer kind of laughed (obviously not following what she said) and then said "so... just hold for the long term, right?". The response "Absolutely". Right from the script.
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posted on
07/24/2002 5:40:52 PM PDT
by
Soren
To: Lazamataz
Nice job, uh what is PPT?
To: Lazamataz; rohry
Laz, rohry will be so proud of you... :0) Thanks for the Wrap Up.
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posted on
07/24/2002 5:43:04 PM PDT
by
cibco
To: rollin
Man, I'm trying not to over-react but.. BoA, Citi, JPM... this is huge, is it not?
Do you have any thoughts on broker risk? The reason I ask is that my main broker is a subsid of JPM. I know they have insurance, but are there still any risks related to a parent bankruptcy? TIA.
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posted on
07/24/2002 5:47:15 PM PDT
by
Soren
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
PPT is the (possibly fictional) Plunge Protection Team, who (theoretically) pump money into the markets if they fall too much.
To: cibco
To: grania
I dare anyone to try to predict what's going to happen over the next week.
The market will open tomorrow and begin tanking as profit takers secure some gains. Over the course of the day, some of that bloodletting will be offset.
Then on Friday there will be a low volume day with small gains as the market assumes a wait-and-see atmosphere.
Then next week two of the first three days will have solid but unspectacular gains with the other being a slight setback. Looking at somewhere around a DOW 8500 by COB Wednesday.
I have no reason to predict this other than it sounds plausible and you dared me :-)
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posted on
07/24/2002 5:50:38 PM PDT
by
Dales
To: Lazamataz
Thanks, I had heard the phrase Plunge Protection Team but didn't connect the PPT with that!
Duh!
To: Soren
BS
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posted on
07/24/2002 5:53:12 PM PDT
by
tomahawk
To: Lazamataz; Ernest_at_the_Beach
PPT is the (possibly fictional) Plunge Protection Team
Actually there is part of the PPT that is not fictional. I think it is called the The Working Group on Financial Markets though I may be wrong on the real name. It is a Federal gubmint group. Actually I do believe there is a PPT but the players may change from time to time. Their purpose is to manipulate the markets so you make tons, I mean TONS of money. If you believe that..........haha.
To: Wyatt's Torch; arete; Lazamataz
I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a prediction: I think July 23 will mark the end of the downward movement in gold. However, the Dow will fall lower than yesterday's close. Bear markets do not end in 400+ moves up.
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posted on
07/24/2002 6:32:51 PM PDT
by
Dukie
To: arete
Yesterday, I predicted today's action . . . except in the other direction.
I figured either Tues or today would be a rally just on a technical basis. The market had gone down too far too fast. In a normal market we would have seen the bounce last week but these are times of extremes. I agree the PPT was working overtime but all they had to do was keep the market up $100 and the shorters goose it up by covering. What's changed fundamentally since yesterday? It's even worse but watch the suckers run and jump on a sinking ship. I've been looking for a rally but I can't see this putz going past next Thurs. And that's my longest figuring. I would say Tues will be the end of it.
To: Dukie
I second that.
I wish the market would stay up, for the sake of this Republic. But, I'm afraid this is just another bear market rally and a spectacular one at that!
IMHO, gold will continue up, but it will hit the wall again before 330 and continue to bounce back and forth down to the present levels before it ultimately takes off upwards. IMHO, it won't really soar until the end of this kabuki dance is nigh and the financial meltdown is unstoppable.
Lord help us! These times are going to be really trying before they are over.
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posted on
07/24/2002 6:44:07 PM PDT
by
Gritty
To: jwh_Denver; Dukie; arete; Lazamataz
What's changed fundamentally since yesterday? That, my friend, is the $1 Trillion dollar question. Even the professionals who have gotten it so wrong over the last 3 years are saying the same thing -
"We're way due for a bounce, but fundamentals haven't changed," said Matthew Johnson, managing director of trading at Lehman Brothers. "We're still dealing with terrorism, accounting issues and fundamentals, which appear to be showing signs of further deterioration."
To: jwh_Denver; Matchett-PI; razorback-bert; Tauzero; ken5050
Did you happen to see the video of the marshalls arresting Adelphia's John Riegas and his two sons. They are accused of exactly the same sort of deals played by "Kenny boy" and his cohorts at Enron, yet no arrests were made of that crew. It just goes to prove the benefits of having friends in high places. No coincidence that these guys were hauled in with the cameras rolling on the same day that the House & Senate agreed on the matter of financial reforms.
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posted on
07/24/2002 6:49:25 PM PDT
by
Dukie
To: Gritty
Advance decline ratio was close today. I heard a speculation that in the large pension funds the allocations percentages between stocks, bonds, notes, etc had been so skewed by the downward trending equities that portfolio adjustments may have been responsible for a substantial portion of this move today.
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posted on
07/24/2002 6:59:12 PM PDT
by
Dukie
To: Dales
I have no reason to predict this other than it sounds plausible and you dared me :-)I have archived your predictions and will probably use them only if they are imperfect, which is highly unlikely, I assume.
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posted on
07/24/2002 7:01:55 PM PDT
by
grania
To: Lazamataz
Can someone post a chart of the DOW from OCT 87 until about April of 88. My wife and I owned about 5 stocks at the time and stayed tuff till Jan when we got so dizzy from the market gyrations that we bailed. There were so many 300 to 500 highs and lows that you needed dramamine to keep from puking.
To: Gritty
Lord help us! These times are going to be really trying before they are over.Faith. Patience. Do not overestimate gloom and do not underestimate the power and ingenuity of the Murrican Pipple.
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