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Polar Ice Sheets and Global Sea Level: How Well Can We Predict the Future?
CO2 Magazine ^ | 24 July 2002 | Sherwood B. and Keith E. Idso

Posted on 07/24/2002 8:55:25 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou

Volume 5, Number 30: 24 July 2002


The query imbedded in the title of this week's Editorial is borrowed from a provocative new paper that suggests humanity should have some idea of the answer to this question before we rush headlong into adopting expensive and economy-wrenching measures to battle what could well turn out to be an imaginary enemy.  The author - C.J. van der Veen of the Byrd Polar Research Center at Ohio State University - puts it this way: "for purposes of formulating policies, some of which could be unpopular or costly, it is imperative that probability density functions be derived for predicted values such as sea level rise."  Hence, the stated objective of his study was "to evaluate the applicability of accumulation and ablation models on which predicted ice-sheet contributions to global sea level are based, and to assess the level of uncertainty in these predictions arising from uncertain model parameters."

After lengthy analyses of various topics related to these objectives, van der Veen arrives at some important conclusions that the general public has not only a right, but a need, to know.  In this regard, for example, the polar scientist notes that with "greater societal relevance comes increased responsibility for geophysical modelers to demonstrate convincingly the veracity of their models to accurately predict future evolution of the earth's natural system or particular components thereof."  In stepping forward to perform this task for glaciological modelers, however, he is forced to conclude that "the validity of the parameterizations used by [various] glaciological modeling studies to estimate changes in surface accumulation and ablation under changing climate conditions has not been convincingly demonstrated."

Some of the problems associated with model testing, of course, are observational, i.e., there must be a documented history capable of being simulated.  With respect to the mass balance of the Greenland Ice Sheet, for example, van der Veen notes that "it is currently not well known whether or not the ice sheet is growing or shrinking, although most studies agree that the whole of Greenland is not far out of balance in either direction."  Hence, if what is "known" is really not all that certain, there is little opportunity to assess model performance.  Furthermore, even if a model prediction turns out to be consistent with present or past observations, van der Veen notes that "there is no guarantee that the model will perform equally well when used to predict the future," especially if one of the model parameters extends into a range that is beyond the range within which the model was tested.

Admittedly, these observations appear to suggest that it is essentially impossible for a model to ever be "proven" to be a valid tool for assessing the likelihood of future events; and that perspective is correct.  At best, says van der Veen, models can only be confirmed "by matching observational data that were not used to calibrate model parameters."  But even then, considering the observations of the preceding paragraph, it really becomes a matter of faith as to how well one believes a model that has successfully replicated the past will predict the future.

Laying these considerations aside - but remembering they imply that whatever follows may be even less well defined than what is suggested by the numbers - van der Veen calculates that within the context of greenhouse-warming-induced sea level change, uncertainties in model parameters are sufficiently great to yield a 95% confidence range of projected contributions from Greenland and Antarctica that encompass global sea-level lowering as well as rise by 2100 A.D. for low, middle and high warming scenarios based on surface mass balance calculations.  Hence, even for the worst of the global warming projections - which could well be way off base itself, as we personally believe it is - there could be little to no change in mean global sea level due to the ongoing rise in the air's CO2 content.

In view of these findings, van der Veen concludes that the confidence level that can be placed in current ice sheet mass balance models "is quite low."  Paraphrasing an earlier assessment of the subject, in fact, he says that today's best models "currently reside on the lower rungs of the ladder of excellence."  Hence, it is not surprising that he states that "considerable improvements are needed before accurate assessments of future sea-level change can be made."

Clearly, the results of van der Veen's eye-opening study should be trumpeted in the ears of the public at large, as well as those of all world leaders.  Via this small essay, we are doing our part.  It is now up to you to do yours.

Dr. Sherwood B. Idso
President
Dr. Keith E. Idso
Vice President

Reference
van der Veen, C.J.  2002.  Polar ice sheets and global sea level: how well can we predict the future?  Global and Planetary Change 32: 165-194.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalsealevel; globalwarminghoax; polaricesheet; republican; toolittledata
Short and to the point, not as technical as previous editorials, but is still spot on.

If I find the C.J. van der Veen paper I will post it or a link to it in the thread.

1 posted on 07/24/2002 8:55:25 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: *Global Warming Hoax
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2 posted on 07/24/2002 9:10:26 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Why didn't he just say he didn't know?
3 posted on 07/24/2002 9:10:33 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; madfly
fyi
4 posted on 07/24/2002 9:12:14 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Much more important than any computer model is verifiable measurements of a significant change and convincing proof that an observed change is a net negative.

If you can't show at least a 1 foot increase in sea levels the world over, who cares? A millimeter increase is too close to the margin of error. And just because it changes does not mean that's a bad thing. If global warming produces more plant life and rain and the added warmth saves lives, shouldn't we want it?

5 posted on 07/24/2002 9:13:50 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Ditter
Dig it, I'd rather hear polar bear jokes.

"Why did the polar bear go to the south pole?"

To see his Aunt Artica!...splash

6 posted on 07/24/2002 9:15:17 PM PDT by norraad
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To: norraad
"Dig it, I'd rather hear polar bear jokes."

Remind me to tell you the one about the "Czech is in the male."

7 posted on 07/24/2002 9:27:39 PM PDT by blam
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To: norraad
OK. Do you know how to catch a polar bear? You cut a hole in the ice & put peas around the edge of it. Then when he comes up to take a pea, you kick him in the icehole.
8 posted on 07/24/2002 9:29:49 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Reeses
Even if there is an increase of millimeters, it must be shown to be due to warming and not to soil accretion, subsidence, or some other cause(s).
9 posted on 07/24/2002 9:42:10 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: Ditter
Why didn't he just say he didn't know?

Because "I don't know" is the hardest phrase for a PHD to say, but I suspect that he said "we don't know" in his paper of 32 pages, which is the second hardest phrase for a PHD to utter.

10 posted on 07/24/2002 9:48:47 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: norraad
Q: What is white, furry and shaped like a tooth?
A: A molar bear.
11 posted on 07/24/2002 10:44:14 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Libertarianize the GOP; Stand Watch Listen; RightWhale; Free the USA; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; ...
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12 posted on 07/24/2002 11:50:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
There's really a "CO2 Magazine"?

13 posted on 07/24/2002 11:52:21 PM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: Tony in Hawaii
There's really a "CO2 Magazine"?

Technically it's CO2 Science Magazine but for some reason the post filter told me it was too long for the field, so I shortened it to CO2 Magazine. In hindsight CO2 Science Mag. would have been better.

Check it out, it's a great resource.

14 posted on 07/25/2002 12:02:57 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
That 20 character limitation is bothersome!

I think that is what it is.

15 posted on 07/25/2002 12:20:05 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
If you do come up with that article, would you please send me a flag?
16 posted on 07/25/2002 6:42:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Even if there is an increase of millimeters, it must be shown to be due to warming and not to soil accretion, subsidence, or some other cause(s).

and why couldn't warming be a natural cause?

17 posted on 07/25/2002 6:43:15 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: Carry_Okie
I couldn't find the article but I did find this.
Click on the mapping 1 and 2 link.
18 posted on 07/25/2002 9:34:00 AM PDT by farmfriend
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
I certainly believe that if there is indeed a warming trend it is caused by natural causes, mainly the solar furnace at the center of our solar system that is over 99% of the mass of the system. Every other natural cause pales in comparison to it, and of all possible natural causes, man is the very least of them.

Lots of places that are devoid of the heat island effect are recording colder temps. It could be that once we are out of the current solar maxium, that it becomes apparent that Global Cooling should be our concern, as we are much less able to cope with colder temps than with warmer temps.

19 posted on 07/25/2002 9:23:03 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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