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ARMED PILOTS: Proponents take their case to U.S. Senate
Union Leader ^ | 7/26/02 | JONATHAN D. SALANT, AP

Posted on 07/25/2002 10:08:52 PM PDT by kattracks

WASHINGTON — The head of a key Senate committee reiterated his opposition yesterday to a bill that would allow the nation’s airline pilots to carry guns.

Sen. Ernest Hollings, head of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, said that instead of guns, pilots should be prohibited from opening cockpit doors in flight.

“The door has got to be fixed — impenetrable — and never opened in flight,” said Hollings, D-S.C., at the beginning of yesterday’s hearing on airline security. “Once that’s fixed, we’ve solved the problem of an airliner flying into the Empire State Building. We’ve solved the problem of guns in the cockpit.”

But those who favor arming the pilots hope the Transportation Department’s decision to reconsider its opposition to the idea will boost its chances in the Senate.

Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta said earlier this week that he had asked the incoming head of the Transportation Security Administration, retired Coast Guard Adm. James Loy, to take a new look at the issue. The review follows an overwhelming House vote earlier this month to allow commercial pilots to carry guns.

“What the House did and the statement of Mr. Mineta gives it new energy,” Sen. Conrad Burns, R-Mont., a sponsor of the Senate legislation.

Mineta told the Senate committee yesterday that the $3.85 billion for the TSA included in the anti-terrorism spending bill isn’t enough to allow the agency to hire all the screeners and buy all of the machines necessary to meet deadlines for improving airline security.

“The amount of money Congress has approved simply will not support the mandate and timetable for aviation security that Congress set last fall,” Mineta said. “Congress has given us a strict and inflexible mandate, and insufficient funds to meet it.” He said the agency needs an additional $1 billion.

Mineta said that without enough money, he can still meet a Nov. 19 deadline for employing a federal work force to screen passengers and a Dec. 31 deadline for inspecting all checked bags for explosives, but lines will be longer at airports.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said the administration would meet the congressional deadlines, but said some lawmakers are having second thoughts.

“There’s a growing concern in the Congress, though, about whether or not they were being realistic in originally assigning the deadlines they did, given the resources and the mandates that they’ve imposed on the administration,” Fleischer said.

To date, only six of 429 commercial airports have all of their checkpoints staffed by federal employees: Baltimore; Louisville, Ky.; Mobile, Ala.; Chicopee and Bedford, Mass.; and Kalamazoo, Mich. In addition, some of the checkpoints at New York’s Kennedy Airport are staffed by federal screeners.

Despite the continued opposition to arming pilots by Hollings, the committee chairman, Burns said the hearing gives proponents another opportunity to get the bill to the Senate floor.

The Senate bill’s chief sponsor, New Hampshire Republican Robert Smith, may not wait. Smith has discussed offering the bill as an amendment to other legislation, such as the bill creating a Homeland Security Department or the measure funding transportation.

Pilots have been visiting senators’ offices on Capitol Hill, answering questions and seeking support.

“It’s a matter of seeing us face to face and knowing we are on the front lines,” said American Airlines Capt. Linda Pauwells, a member of the Allied Pilots Association



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1 posted on 07/25/2002 10:08:52 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
If pilots aren't armed, a cockpit door must be able to withstand more than 15 minutes of attacks by terrorists. Building a door that can resist such attacks but does not add excessive weight or cost is, to say the least, difficult. By contrast, if the pilots are armed the door need only resist an attack for long enough for one or both pilots to ready their weapon.
2 posted on 07/25/2002 10:47:14 PM PDT by supercat
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To: kattracks
Alright…

As a pilot, my first question directed to the distinguished dumbass from South Carolina is this..

Just what are we suppose to do on those nice long 8 to 14 hr long hauls when nature calls? What am I suppose to eat, that granola bar I managed to sneak past the TSA Federal Security Nazi?

The flight deck on even the most spacious airliner, such as a 777 or 747-400 has no restroom facilities or meal storage. That would require, literally a whole new flight deck on a jet that size.

Geeeeeeeeeeeesh… TMMT

3 posted on 07/25/2002 10:58:27 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Dang, what are you doing bringing real life experience into this discussion? ;^)
4 posted on 07/25/2002 11:05:26 PM PDT by Balata
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Also the crew rotates on a long flight....I wonder if the dumgass rat from SC ever drove his car non stop for 13 hours....
5 posted on 07/25/2002 11:06:02 PM PDT by spokeshave
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
"As a pilot, my first question directed to the distinguished dumbass from South Carolina is this.. Just what are we suppose to do on those nice long 8 to 14 hr long hauls when nature calls?"

Pilots just need to - en masse - either call in sick or refuse any airliner as "unsafe" if it doesn't totally measure up to FAA specs. All such "unsafe" airliners must be reported to the FAA.

This would both throw schedules into a tailspin - and have the industry begging for an end to what it couldn't legally call a "strike."

You'd have armed pilots fast - with no objection from either industry bosses or congresscritters unable to fly on junkets - then!

GUN REVIEWS free from ad-money bias - including pilot-friendly handguns!

6 posted on 07/25/2002 11:26:32 PM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: supercat
If pilots aren't armed, a cockpit door must be able to withstand more than 15 minutes of attacks by terrorists. Building a door that can resist such attacks but does not add excessive weight or cost is, to say the least, difficult. By contrast, if the pilots are armed the door need only resist an attack for long enough for one or both pilots to ready their weapon.

Good point. Power over the plane will come from the end of a handgun barrel.

7 posted on 07/25/2002 11:46:16 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Just what are we suppose to do on those nice long 8 to 14 hr long hauls when nature calls?

Well, as an old C-141 jock we had those Sextant ports. But, that may be stretching things. ;^)

8 posted on 07/25/2002 11:57:15 PM PDT by Balata
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Just what are we suppose to do on those nice long 8 to 14 hr long hauls when nature calls?

Well, as an old C-141 jock we had those Sextant ports. But, that may be stretching things. ;^)

9 posted on 07/25/2002 11:57:15 PM PDT by Balata
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Just what are we suppose to do on those nice long 8 to 14 hr long hauls when nature calls?

Well, as an old C-141 jock we had those Sextant ports. But, that may be stretching things. ;^)

10 posted on 07/25/2002 11:57:28 PM PDT by Balata
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Just what are we suppose to do on those nice long 8 to 14 hr long hauls when nature calls?

Well, as an old C-141 jock we had those Sextant ports. But, that may be stretching things. ;^)

11 posted on 07/25/2002 11:58:12 PM PDT by Balata
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To: Balata
Man, that is stretching things. I only hit the post button once. Really!:^)
12 posted on 07/26/2002 12:01:44 AM PDT by Balata
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