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ImClone Doc May Rat On Martha Stewart, Accept Jail in Plea Deal
NY Sun ^ | 26 jul 02 | COLIN MINER

Posted on 07/26/2002 6:32:48 PM PDT by white trash redneck

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I even feel a little sorry for Martha, but with all the mud that's being slung in Bush and Cheney's direction about the current Wall Street meltdown, it's nice to see a DemocRAT donor getting entangled in it as well.
1 posted on 07/26/2002 6:32:48 PM PDT by white trash redneck
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ImClone Doc May Rat On Martha Stewart, Accept Jail in Plea Deal

That's a good thing.

2 posted on 07/26/2002 6:34:11 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: white trash redneck
Martha surely will have a special cooking episode titled, ... "EATING YOUR OWN"...
3 posted on 07/26/2002 6:36:58 PM PDT by Vidalia
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ImClone Doc May Rat On Martha Stewart, Accept Jail in Plea Deal

That's a good thing.

It's a good thing to let off a whole damned corrupt family in a trade for Martha Stewart? I don't think so.

4 posted on 07/26/2002 6:38:52 PM PDT by jackbill
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Actually, I would feel more sorry for her if she weren't a card-carrying Clintonista. Remember, she was the one who decorated the White House for Christmas (complete with a lush TV special extolling the Clintons). She had a huge fundraiser planned at her home in the Hamptons which was only cancelled due to the "oh, I did have an affair with Monica after all" testimony. She had planned to have a huge feature in her magazine (read by millions of soccer moms).

In addition, a fundraiser for democrat senatorial candidates was only cancelled because of the insider trading charge.

She is a soldier in the army of the left, and I feel no pity.

5 posted on 07/26/2002 6:39:15 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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I may have to reconsider how good a thing this really is........

The sources added that Dr. Waksal — concerned that his father and other daughter would also face charges — sent a message that he would be willing to plead guilty to insider-trading related crimes if the government was willing not to pursue charges against the other members of his family.

6 posted on 07/26/2002 6:48:06 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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Martha will look stunning in her new orange jump suit.
7 posted on 07/26/2002 6:48:10 PM PDT by teletech
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It's a good thing to let off a whole damned corrupt family in a trade for Martha Stewart? I don't think so.

My thoughts exactly....I've always thought that Martha Stewart was somewhat of a red herring in this whole matter. She may have done some insider trading, but nothing to the extent that the owner's family did.

8 posted on 07/26/2002 6:49:34 PM PDT by hangin' chad
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Ha, the doc treats martha as one of the unwashed masses, kind of like the way she treats the public.

Poetic justice, except for the fact that they ALL should be dressed in day-glo orange and do the perp walk.

Slime, they are all slime.

9 posted on 07/26/2002 6:51:25 PM PDT by mombonn
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Martha is MORE complicit - she used to be a broker. She KNOWS the laws about insider trading.
10 posted on 07/26/2002 6:53:15 PM PDT by mombonn
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Martha Stewartwill announce this Sunday that she and her stockbroker, peter Bacanovic, have eloped, and are now claimng spousal privilege....

Re Waksal....whatever jail time he gets..he's facing disgorgement of one hundred million or so..that where it gets interesting....he owed the banks and brokerages a ton of money..he'd borrowed against the stock to support his lifestyle..when it cratered, he couldn't pay the loans....it hasn't been stated what he did with the money that his father and daughers got from their sales..if they gave it to creditors, the govt can force disgorgement.....this a rticle sounds like it's defense spin, to me....

11 posted on 07/26/2002 6:55:56 PM PDT by ken5050
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She'll also look good in wide pin stripes!
12 posted on 07/26/2002 6:57:19 PM PDT by Drango
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Miss M, I'm shocked. Usually you see the bigger picture and focus on the bigger fish. The one the Feds want to hook is the FDA insider who feed the good Doc the initial info. Unless of course he got a legitimate heads up before hand in which case I take it all back. (Still Freeper friends?)
13 posted on 07/26/2002 6:59:05 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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You are, of course, correct. My comment was simply on the necessity of feeling pity for Martha. I, of course, would like to see the mastermind brought in.

Perhaps Martha can strike an agreement as well.

14 posted on 07/26/2002 7:00:34 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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The key to this thing is the fake cancer drug.

The scam is nearly perfect. A promoter promotes a cancer cure. He files with the FDA. Then he promotes the stock in his cancer cure firm. Then sells out before the FDA rules the drug is not going to be approved.

The rules for drug approval are clear. No one files not being certain that a the drug will be approved. If it does what is claimed it will be approved. What makes it perfect is the difficulty in proving that the person who applied for the drug approval knew it would be turned down. It is one of the better cons.

Can you imagine someone selling his ownership of a drug that cured cancer before it is approved? That ranks right up their with the guy who will sell his machine that makes dirt into gold. It the machine worked he would just use it to make gold and sell the gold. If someone really had a cancer cure he would not sell ownership before approval.

Nearly 5 years ago I was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer. What would I have paid for a drug to cure it? Everything I had or could get my hands on. My cancer was cured, and it cost a fortune. But I would have paid all I had for a cure.

But I can't imagine anyone selling ownership in a cancer drug before it was approved. Once approved it wouild bring a huge amount of money. There is a huge value difference between a drug that migh work and one that does.

The only reason to sell before is the same reason the guy wants to sell the machine that turns dirt into gold. It is a fake machine and a fake cure.

That is why they are after him, and that is why they are after Martha.

Martha is terminal stupid. All she had to do was sell the stock and deny insider information. She could say I heard it had fallen to Sixty bucks a share so I sold. Instead she tries to use a fake standing sell order and gets caught.

Martha is likley to mostly be a slightly dishonest dumb broad. If she had been bright she would have called the broker in a panic noting that the price had fallen. She would have been shocked and frightend. She would have ordered the sale after vasilating a bit and finally deciding to sell telling the broker that if it started back up she would buy again. She would have a broker that could testify she kept asking me what to do... I didn't tell her.

She is not a very smart crook but her boyfriend is a pretty good con artist. He sold a machine that he claimed would make gold out of cancer. He got paid in gold.

15 posted on 07/26/2002 7:05:37 PM PDT by Common Tator
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"It's a good thing to let off a whole damned corrupt family in a trade for Martha Stewart? I don't think so."

I agree, get'em all!

16 posted on 07/26/2002 7:07:42 PM PDT by blam
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How is the testimony of someone which the government gives an interest in testifying a certain way valid at all.
17 posted on 07/26/2002 8:09:10 PM PDT by weikel
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To: jackbill
It's a good thing to let off a whole damned corrupt
family in a trade for Martha Stewart? I don't think so.

How likely is it that they would find the people who
bought the stocks which are now worth so much
less and reimburse them?  Does that ever happen?
I didn't think so.  Off to the hoosegow.

18 posted on 07/26/2002 8:17:52 PM PDT by gcruse
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I even feel a little sorry for Martha, but with all the mud that's being slung in Bush and Cheney's direction about the current Wall Street meltdown, it's nice to see a DemocRAT donor getting entangled in it as well.

IMO, everyone who doesn't play by the same rules as the "commoners" deserves to take a hit, as appropriate, political party notwithstanding. Too often, the "priveledged" get off the hook. Witness: the Clintons, The Goron, Toricelli, etc., etc.

19 posted on 07/26/2002 8:40:15 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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Martha will look stunning in her new orange jump suit.

Of course, it will be tastefully appointed with accessories made from paper plates from the prison cafeteria.

20 posted on 07/26/2002 8:43:12 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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