[Britton J Wingfield]

this buck rogers stuff is so much useless crapola...

Funny, I've seen quotes from 1930's Marines calling the M-1 exactly that, "Buck Rogers crap..."

[gilor]

Was it Patton that called the M1 "the greatest battle implement ever devised"?

[dcwusmc]

yeah, they loved their '03 Springfield until they got their hands on the Garand. Almost the last truly PRIVATELY designed weapon we had... the M-16 started out that way but got chewed up by the Army. Only drawback to the Garand was magazine capacity. Eight rounds is not always enough. But the 30-06 is one of the best military rounds, IMHO, we have had. It has range, stopping power and endurance... I got to carry one in Infantry Training at Camp Geiger in '67. Loved it. Have one of my own now... Escellent battle rifle.