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Hollings' refusal of 9-11 widow's gun testimony triggers media attention
The Charleston Post and Courier ^ | Saturday, July 27, 2002 | Schuyler Kropf

Posted on 07/27/2002 8:21:56 AM PDT by PJeffQ

Hollings' refusal of 9-11 widow's gun testimony triggers media attention

Saturday, July 27, 2002
BY SCHUYLER KROPF
Of The Post and Courier Staff

The story of the South Carolina senator who said "no" to the widow of the 9-11 airline pilot is fast gaining national attention.

Democrat U.S. Sen. Fritz Hollings rejected a request by Ellen Saracini to testify at Thursday's Senate hearings in favor of letting airline pilots be armed in the cockpit.

Her husband, Richard, was the captain of United Flight 175, the second plane to crash into the World Trade Center on Sept. 11.

Hollings, D-S.C., opposes the bill and refused to let Saracini testify before the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee. He did suggest that her comments be included in the record.

Hollings' stance has become fodder for cable TV news shows, with the likes of Bill O'Reilly of the Fox News Channel targeting what O'Reilly called a lack of compassion.

"Sen. Hollings, incredibly, refused to hear the woman, saying the committee didn't have time, even though Mrs. Saracini petitioned for a hearing months ago," O'Reilly editorialized.

"This is, No. 1, an outrage, No. 2, disrespectful to a woman who has endured tragedy and No. 3, undemocratic," he added. "Sen. Hollings should be ashamed of himself on humanitarian grounds alone. The rejection of Mrs. Saracini has caused her even more pain, and she deserves to be heard."

O'Reilly even used the "A-word" - "arrogant" - to describe Hollings; it's a term his critics often have used against him.

The media attention, including Saracini's news interviews, caused Hollings' office to be "rushed" with calls beginning Friday morning, some from as far away as California and Texas, his office said.

Hollings' Washington, D.C., press spokesman said the senator is being unfairly attacked by the talking-head circuit. Spokesman Andy Davis said the committee covered an extensive list of issues facing aviation security nationwide, including funding for transportation security, training and deployment of federal security screeners, logistic challenges facing airports, the deployment of explosive detection equipment and cockpit and air cargo security measures. Arming pilots was one issue on a long list, he said.

"We needed time to talk to the secretary (Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta) about a lot of issues beyond arming pilots," he said.

Thursday's lengthy hearing actually was slanted more in favor of those who support arming pilots than those who opposed, Davis added. The committee heard from the bill's sponsors, Sen. Bob Smith R-N.H., and Sen. Frank Murkowski, R-Alaska, and also pilot Capt. Stephen Luckey, chairman of the Air Line Pilots Association's national security committee.

One pilot, Capt. Ed Davidson, director of flight safety for Northwest Airlines, testified against it, Davis said.

Hollings is against arming pilots and instead favors making passenger plane cockpits secure from forced entry by adding such things as Kevlar-lined bullet-resistant doors. He also favors the mandate of El Al airline that when the cockpit door is locked, it stays locked.

O'Reilly was blunt in his attack against the South Carolina senator who has two years left in his current term.

"Hollings is against guns in the cockpit," he said. "He doesn't want someone like Ellen Saracini swaying sentiment. And he's arrogant enough to dismiss this woman even though her husband was a victim of our country's lax security."

O'Reilly also invited Hollings to appear on his show to defend his position.

"I don't expect that he will," Davis said of his boss.

More hearings on the issue could be held.

Commercial airlines are under Federal Aviation Administration orders to install new, heavier cockpit doors by April 9, 2003. They must lock from inside the cockpit and be strong enough that terrorists can't shoot off a lock or blow up the door.

But even the new doors can be opened to let pilots go to the bathroom and let flight attendants bring in meals. Hollings doesn't want the doors opened at all while the plane is aloft.

"The door has got to be fixed - impenetrable - and never opened in flight," Hollings said on Thursday. "Once that's fixed, we've solved the problem of an airliner flying into the Empire State Building. We've solved the problem of guns in the cockpit."

Luckey said, "Neither the current cockpit doors nor the new cockpit doors are impenetrable," and therefore pilots should be allowed to carry guns.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: airlinepilots; firearms; fritzhollings; guns; mineta
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1 posted on 07/27/2002 8:21:56 AM PDT by PJeffQ
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To: PJeffQ
I'll bet if Rosie O'Donnell wanted to come before the panel to talk against guns that the 'RATS would be falling all over themselves to hear her pearls of wisdom.
4 posted on 07/27/2002 8:35:55 AM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: PJeffQ

I say, I say, whoa they-ah little phillie. Now don't be a-filling yore purty little emotional head with big ideas, now.

Ellen Saracini

5 posted on 07/27/2002 8:39:11 AM PDT by moyden
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To: PJeffQ
Commercial airlines are under Federal Aviation Administration orders to install new, heavier cockpit doors by April 9, 2003. They must lock from inside the cockpit and be strong enough that terrorists can't shoot off a lock or blow up the door.

Mean while, the F-16's are ready to blow you travelers out of the sky. The people who think this stuff up are fools with inflated egoes, believing they know better than anyone else.

6 posted on 07/27/2002 8:44:09 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: PJeffQ
Hollings is the senator from Disney, owned completely by the liberals in the entertainment industry who want to abolish the Fair Use Doctrine of Copyright Law. Senator Foghorn Leghorn has no time for "little people" like a 9/11 widow.
7 posted on 07/27/2002 8:46:14 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: PJeffQ
"The door has got to be fixed".....Hollings

The Senate and Hollings Senate needs to be fixed first. It's time for him to go. The last good thing he ever did was to put the Confederate Flag on the dome. Hollings is a consistent embarassment to the people of SC. This boot-licking, heritage hating scalawag, be gone!

8 posted on 07/27/2002 8:51:13 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: Astronaut
ahem... I'm sure you meant the senator from Warner Brothers... ;)
9 posted on 07/27/2002 8:58:20 AM PDT by goodieD
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To: CWRWinger
I think "to carry/not to carry" should be left to the discretion of the pilot.
11 posted on 07/27/2002 9:54:02 AM PDT by TiaS
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To: CWRWinger
Commercial airlines are under Federal Aviation Administration orders to install new, heavier cockpit doors by April 9, 2003. They must lock from inside the cockpit and be strong enough that terrorists can't shoot off a lock or blow up the door.>>>>>>>>>>

so how does one gain entrance if for some reason all personal inside are inconpacitated and someone needs to fly the plane? Oh I suppose they just shoot it out of the air rather then letting it try to land? (ok maybe I watched airport or whatever to many times, lol)
12 posted on 07/27/2002 10:01:01 AM PDT by tickles
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This is the same train of though that says...if you don't want your children raped and murdered...keep them in the house 24/7. If you don't like too much graphic sex and violence on TV...too bad, turn it off! Don't want to be robbed or assaulted...then stay in the house and put bars on the windows. We are expected to live like moles while vermin walk around like they own the place!

Hollings is a gutless wonder and he wants the rest of us to follow suit.

13 posted on 07/27/2002 10:03:04 AM PDT by JessicaDragonet
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To: tickles
so how does one gain entrance if for some reason all personal inside are inconpacitated and someone needs to fly the plane? Oh I suppose they just shoot it out of the air rather then letting it try to land? (ok maybe I watched airport or whatever to many times, lol)

More to the point, if the cockpit door really is unbreakable, then any terrorist who manages to get even momentary control of the cockpit via any means will be completely unstoppable. By contrast, if the pilot is armed and the cockpit door is of a design that takes a minute or so to break down, then even a terrorist who takes out a pilot would have to worry that once the door breaks down he's only got a certain amount of ammo--not enough bullets to stop all the attackers.

14 posted on 07/27/2002 10:11:58 AM PDT by supercat
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To: CWRWinger
"Hollings is a consistent embarassment to the people of SC."

No kidding! Conservatives in S.C. need to wake up! Hollings needs to be thrown out like the piece of garbage he is.
15 posted on 07/27/2002 10:17:33 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: PJeffQ
One has to put Hollings in that group of professional politicians that should have been removed years ago.
16 posted on 07/27/2002 10:25:54 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: demkicker
Senators are only up every 6 years...
word is that Charlie Condon and Bob Peeler are both considering a run at him in '04...
I heard other names too but I forget them right now...
17 posted on 07/27/2002 11:31:03 AM PDT by PJeffQ
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To: PJeffQ
Wheels have to be round, Hollins, this was discovered when the roads were paved. You got away with blaming the problems on the ruts in the road, Senator, but truth reveals that you are square-wheels are round. You would make a good grave stone, if ever etching tools harder than your head are invented.
18 posted on 07/27/2002 12:16:15 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: PJeffQ
If the pubbies had any guts (wishful thinking, I know) they'd use this senile windbag as a poster boy for the congressional elections. Then again, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of slimy, traitorous, criminal RAT pols the pubs could use. If they had any guts.
19 posted on 07/27/2002 12:28:29 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: supercat; tickles
Both of you have excellent points.
20 posted on 07/27/2002 1:11:20 PM PDT by agrace
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