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Vigilante or Minuteman? Rancher goes high-tech to nab immigrants, smugglers
Sierra Vista Herald ^ | 7/28/02 | Bill Hess

Posted on 07/28/2002 8:25:40 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan

Vigilante or Minuteman? Rancher goes high-tech to nab immigrants, smugglers

By BILL HESS - 7/28/02

Herald/Review

DOUGLAS -- Plans of a Californian to introduce a private citizen's border patrol into Cochise County are not new.

One area rancher who is already patrolling the border on his own says he welcomes the newcomers and thinks they are needed.

Some think Roger Barnett is a vigilante, handing out justice without the benefit of law.

Others see the man as a modern Minuteman, defending family, friends and property against intruders -- hundreds of would-be illegal immigrants and dozens of drug smugglers trying to use his ranch as an avenue north.

Barnett shrugs off being called a vigilante. "It doesn't apply to me. From what I've learned a vigilante goes out and captures them, has a trial and executes them."

Barnett's 22,000-acre ranch is just two miles from the U.S.-Mexico border -- a perfect pathway for those seeking to enter the United States illegally. He owns about 7,000 acres of the ranch and leases the rest from the State Land Department for grazing his 250 head of cattle.

Barnett actively seeks out trespassers on his property and then holds them for the U.S. Border Patrol.

In the past, he has been accused of threatening illegal immigrants with weapons. He has been investigated by county and federal officials, but no charges have been filed.

He also has been praised by county and federal officials for saving the lives of illegal immigrants by giving them water and food.

A soft-spoken man, who easily laughs and jokes, Barnett said he knows not to cross the line between legally protecting his property and taking the law into his own hands.

"From what I understand there is a special FBI investigator up in Phoenix waiting for me to do something to jump on me." Laughing, he added, "He's going to sit up there a long time."

Last year, Barnett said he and his family were responsible for turning over more than 2,100 illegal immigrants to the federal government. Since the first of this year, the number is 1,644. In the past couple of years, more than a ton of marijuana has been found on the ranch and turned over to the government, Barnett said.

The largest group of illegal immigrants he has held and turned over to the U.S. Border Patrol included 86 people and the largest number of drug smugglers was 18.

He combines the ways of the Old West and modern technology to patrol his property.

Born and raised in Bisbee, Barnett traces his family's connection to Cochise County to the late 1800s.

An experienced tracker, Barnett will spend hours following the footprints of trespassers. He learned some of his tracking skills from U.S. Border Patrol agents, he said.

Instead of a horse, Barnett is more apt to patrol the ranch on weekends in a pickup truck, with an all-terrain vehicle in the truck's bed to get into the more rugged land. A businessman with offices in Sierra Vista, Benson, Willcox, Tucson and Phoenix, Barnett said during the weekdays he stays at his Sierra Vista residence.

Even though he's away from the ranch, the search for trespassers doesn't stop. He has installed high-tech sensors along paths he knows smugglers and would-be immigrants use to make their way north.

Saturday, while riding along one of the many dirt roads that crisscross his property, a monitor in the truck would go off now and then.

Pointing out the driver's side window, Barnett would indicate where one of the 11 sensors is buried. An antenna that blends into the landscape extends from each sensor to send the alarm. The alert also goes off at the main ranch house.

The system provides a digital message telling Barnett which alarm was triggered and why.

"It's picked us up," Barnett said as the truck alarm sounded.

When a vehicle goes by a sensor, a number two appears. If it is people setting off the devices, the number one appears.

The 2-year-old system cost Barnett about $25,000 to install.

He decided to set up his own surveillance system when he came to believe the federal government just wasn't going to do the job. Most of the Border Patrol agents want to do their jobs but the agency's leadership won't let them, Barnett claims.

Barnett believes the United States should use troops to safeguard the border.

He is convinced that while most people living along the border understand the problem, the rest of the country has no idea what is happening.

Barnett supports Glenn Spencer's plan for an American Border Patrol. The Sherman Oaks, Calif., man is planning on moving to Cochise County in the next few weeks and establishing the patrol along the border.

Barnett said the organization will provide information to the people of the United States on what is really happening on the border.

Spencer will be bringing in a lot of high-tech equipment to be used in providing real time video of border incursions and will gather other information for the American people and law enforcement agencies, he said.

The Southern Poverty Law Center -- a well-known civil rights organization headquartered in Alabama -- lists Spencer's Voice of Citizens Together and American Patrol as hate groups.

The American Border Patrol is not listed. A new group, Spencer has stressed it is separate from his other enterprises. At the same time, Spencer is accepting contributions to the American Border Patrol through the American Patrol.

The Southern Poverty Law Center publication calls Spencer, "one of the hardest line anti-immigrant ideologues now operating."

Barnett said the Southern Poverty Law Center "probably considers me a hate group. What they come up with wouldn't surprise me a bit and I don't care. They are so far left of center it is unreal as far as I'm concerned."

Barnett said he hopes the people of Cochise County will give Spencer the opportunity to prove his value in controlling the border.

Barnett said he will support Spencer giving him the right to install hidden cameras on his property "as I believe all the ranchers will do."

"I think it might take a little while but it (the American Border Patrol) will go over. They (country residents) are still unsure, unclear of what he (Spencer) is going to do. But after they find out what will happen they will support it," Barnett said.

There are many who are "champing at the bit" waiting for Spencer to show up and start his operation on Sept. 1, he added.

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; invasion; lawenforcement
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To: Age of Reason
Why? Why do we need them to come here to begin with?

I've not seen a lot of Americans doing the menial farm and ranch jobs they fill. I've not seen a lot of Americans doing the motel maid and maintenance they fill, just to name a few.

61 posted on 07/28/2002 6:16:44 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: FITZ; Sabertooth
There's an awful lot of oil down there in Mexico (second highest reserves in the Western Hemisphere)--and we should try to cut back on Saudi oil. Plus all those beautiful but undeveloped coasts. Lots of good jobs could be made in Mexico

Couldn't agree with you more in this respect. Just one example: The Permian and Delaware basins in New Mexico and Texas, continue well into Mexico. There are thousands of high volume producers in the US and just as many waiting to be drilled in Mexico. That alone could employ many thousands for a number of years.

The coasts could provide work for as many as a few hundred thousand. The minerals of the Rocky Mountains as Sabertooth described: again, many thousands could be employed in that industry as well. I agree, its time to pressure Mexico into accepting modernity and bringing their people along for the ride.

62 posted on 07/28/2002 6:30:15 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: Jesse; sweetliberty
I know Roger. Not only is he ranching and rounding up illegals, he runs some pretty successful businesses in the area. He actually lives here in Sierra Vista during the week, and goes out to the ranch, over 50 miles away, on the weekends.

Roger has been rounding up illegals since before I met him 4 years ago. Investigations of him have been made public twice in that time. I wonder how many we haven't heard of?

I truly believe people on both sides of the border who stand to lose money because of his actions (smugglers of drugs and people) are behind the lawsuits and investigations.

HJ
63 posted on 07/28/2002 6:34:16 PM PDT by HiJinx
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To: BOBTHENAILER
You guys seem to be hitting right on the solution. Modernize Mexico, clean it up and make them a good neighbor.
They are not a good neighbor, their people have gotton screwed from their government and the U.S. turns a blind eye. They are a third world country and a threat to our country as long as they remain that way.

I also agree with bounty hunters and land mines.
64 posted on 07/28/2002 6:47:50 PM PDT by Trteamer
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To: Squantos
It's too bad that the goobermint is shirking its primary duty to defend our nation, and is just waiting for a citizen to defend it "too hard" so they can swing into action to nail him. Strange days.
65 posted on 07/28/2002 8:47:25 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I've not seen a lot of Americans doing the menial farm and ranch jobs they fill. I've not seen a lot of Americans doing the motel maid and maintenance they fill, just to name a few.

But that's the point: Flood the country with illegal labor to drive down those salaries to the point that real Americans can't afford to earn a living at those occupations.

Heck, pay me enough money, and I'd quit my office job to shovel real manure.

And how many illegal immigrants did they pull out of that dirty and dangerous Pennsylvannia mineshaft yesterday?

I guess the unions keep salaries high enough to attract American mining workers.

In colonial times, they used slaves for such work, and I'm sure when anyone talked of abolition, the mine owners would protest they could not man the mines without slaves.

66 posted on 07/29/2002 7:02:40 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason
How right you are. If those employers that used cheap illegal labor had to pay SS and taxes on those employees not to mention their health care (which WE pay for via free handouts at emergency rooms and free clinics) they would be bankrupt. Thing is, they get the cheap labor, make a buck but the rest of us lose TWO bucks paying for these illegals care/food/anchorbabies/etc.
67 posted on 07/29/2002 7:15:43 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Age of Reason
Heck, pay me enough money, and I'd quit my office job to shovel real manure.

Be my guest.

And how many illegal immigrants did they pull out of that dirty and dangerous Pennsylvannia mineshaft yesterday?

What does that have to do with ANYTHING?

I guess the unions keep salaries high enough to attract American mining workers.

And many industries dependent on union labor are in big trouble.

68 posted on 07/29/2002 8:01:58 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: BOBTHENAILER
the miners example has absolutely everything to do with this topic. miners are paid about $20 an hour to get dirty and take the risks. pay them $8 an hour and watch the mexicans fill the mines.
69 posted on 07/29/2002 8:49:18 AM PDT by jody
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To: jody
the miners example has absolutely everything to do with this topic. miners are paid about $20 an hour to get dirty and take the risks. pay them $8 an hour and watch the mexicans fill the mines.

Oh, I get it. We make like democRATs, give everybody a "Living Wage", say $20.00 per hour for hotel maids, dishwashers, strawberry pickers, manure shovelers, etc, ad infinitum. Who cares if the public has to pay for the increase, who cares if the businesses go by the wayside.

Anything to keep nothing but American workers paid a high wage. Let's not stop there. How about absolutley free health care ala Hillary, free prescription drugs, double the social security benefits.

70 posted on 07/29/2002 9:32:38 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I still think the idea of a strictly enforced and monitored "guest worker" program, offers the best alternative for both business and the workers. Come over, work for the period required, pay taxes and then go home.

Dont you think the left, who I'm sure support this idea now, will call it "aparthied" as soon as they want to make more demands?

71 posted on 07/29/2002 9:41:55 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: Squantos
As to that FiBi FLEA sitting on his perch waiting for the Rancher to make a mistake versus going after the illegals who are already making a mistake on a daily basis screams volumes about the state of our Nation. Fibi's are nothing more than a bunch of gundecking shitbirds anymore as far as I'm concerned.

I agree. They find over a ton of drugs being smuggled across this guys property but they have someone watching the rancher. Is it a war on drugs or a war on the american people?

72 posted on 07/29/2002 9:45:57 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I've not seen a lot of Americans doing the menial farm and ranch jobs they fill. I've not seen a lot of Americans doing the motel maid and maintenance they fill, just to name a few.

I did. This is a past tense idea though. Americans cant afford to work for the wages mexicans can who are also very often under the table and taken back to mexico. So now of course we dont see americans doing these jobs very often.

73 posted on 07/29/2002 9:50:40 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: BOBTHENAILER
In colonial times, they used slaves for such work, and I'm sure when anyone talked of abolition, the mine owners would protest they could not man the mines without slaves.

You forgot to respond to this one didnt you. Funny how you responded to every statement Age of Reason made except this one.

74 posted on 07/29/2002 9:56:11 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: PuNcH
In colonial times, they used slaves for such work, and I'm sure when anyone talked of abolition, the mine owners would protest they could not man the mines without slaves.

I didn't respond because it is foolish to do so. But, because you seem to want to force the issue, here it is.

The issue is a moot point. OBVIOUSLY, the owners found they COULD work the mines, fields, factories, etc., without slaves, because they did.

If you want to make the comparison to the continuing work, without slaves, to today's industries that use Mexican labor, go ahead. To conservatives, the market bears what it can. To all liberals, the market can bear what they FORCE upon it.

75 posted on 07/29/2002 10:06:28 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: BOBTHENAILER
i agree. i was not suggesting a living wage. i only pointed out how the miners were relevant to the thread. the mining company had no problem finding white and black americans to mine for $20 an hour. for $8 an hour they would almost surely have to hire illegal aliens from mexico. i'm just voicing my opinion that cutting costs by lowering wages is fine as long as americans are hired.
76 posted on 07/29/2002 10:36:04 AM PDT by jody
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To: jody
i'm just voicing my opinion that cutting costs by lowering wages is fine as long as americans are hired.

Thanks for the explanation.

77 posted on 07/29/2002 10:52:29 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: BOBTHENAILER
To all liberals, the market can bear what they FORCE upon it.

And force would be a disregard for this country's laws and the will of the people?

78 posted on 07/29/2002 12:49:46 PM PDT by PuNcH
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To: BOBTHENAILER
To conservatives, the market bears what it can.

Free society cannot bear just whatever the market can bear. We cant have slavery, abusive child labor or the murder of individuals for the purpose of selling their organs regardless of whether there is a market for it or not. We live in a society of laws, a country with borders.

79 posted on 07/29/2002 1:10:45 PM PDT by PuNcH
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To: PuNcH
And force would be a disregard for this country's laws and the will of the people?

I just can't follow your logic here. When have LIBERALS ever cared about our country's laws and the will of the people?

80 posted on 07/29/2002 1:38:58 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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