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Homosexual Researchers Debunk ‘Born Gay’ Urban Legend
Traditional Values Coalition ^ | 7/30/02 | Traditional Values Coalition

Posted on 07/29/2002 12:16:04 PM PDT by Polycarp

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1 posted on 07/29/2002 12:16:04 PM PDT by Polycarp
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2 posted on 07/29/2002 12:18:31 PM PDT by Polycarp
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"are several consistent factors that contribute to the emergence of homosexuality: gender confusion in childhood, a failure to internalize maleness, and sexual abuse by a same-sex predator. "

So, what are we going to do about it?
3 posted on 07/29/2002 12:27:03 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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Urban legend, my foot. Almost all the people I grew up with that came out of the closet were considered "sissies" or "fags" by our peer group before we went to our first school dance. There is some sort of genetic compenent to being gay. That gay lisp is something that a straight man could never recreate.
4 posted on 07/29/2002 12:27:33 PM PDT by toupsie
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After computer crashes on two of my computers, I'm trying to recreate my ping lists. I've pulled together a couple old lists, but I may have missed some or added some who do not desire to be pinged.

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5 posted on 07/29/2002 12:28:34 PM PDT by Polycarp
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National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH)
6 posted on 07/29/2002 12:30:20 PM PDT by Polycarp
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That gay lisp is something that a straight man could never recreate.

I see you've never been on a construction site when gays were being mocked by heterosexuals. Its easy to recreate because it is an affectation, not a genetic disorder.

I know men who left the gay lifestyle whose affectations vanished with their homosexuality.

I also know men who are by all outward appearances quite effeminate yet have 6 kids and solid marriages and no homosexual inclination whatsoever.

So effeminate is not = homosexual.

It might not exactly be a "choice" but neither is homosexuality in any way genetic.

7 posted on 07/29/2002 12:34:32 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: toupsie
Howdy

Believe as you wish to believe, just be aware that there is not the faintest shred of scientific basis for the "born gay" myth.

There are billions of public dollars and tremendous political power resting on the public misperception regarding the origins of sexual deviancy, and therein lies the reason for this departure from reason.

Oh, for those halcyon days of ethics in science, nowadays most public policy and opinion based on "science" is merely junk science fashioned to serve political purposes.

10 posted on 07/29/2002 12:43:52 PM PDT by MoscowMike
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Thank you for sharing your "unbiased" opinion.
11 posted on 07/29/2002 12:48:50 PM PDT by Polycarp
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tremendous political power resting on the public misperception regarding the origins of sexual deviancy

Succinct. Pithy. Well said.

12 posted on 07/29/2002 12:51:13 PM PDT by Polycarp
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That gay lisp is something that a straight man could never recreate

You thilly butt.

13 posted on 07/29/2002 12:52:28 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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I have two brothers, one older and one younger. The younger is a half brother, same mother but different father. From the time my younger brother was about 6 years old, we knew the boy was a fruiter. NO DOUBT in any ones mind. My older brother and I are as normal as can be but on my stepfathers side of the family there are numerous cases of homosexuality. Some of them are outright flamers, like my younger brother. There was never a question of choice with him, he was ALWAYS a drag queen!
14 posted on 07/29/2002 12:55:15 PM PDT by MAWG
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It may not be preference, but there is always a choice. Free will, after all, allows us to choose which path we want to follow.
15 posted on 07/29/2002 12:58:09 PM PDT by JMJ333
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There are billions of public dollars and tremendous political power resting on the public misperception regarding the origins of sexual deviancy, and therein lies the reason for this departure from reason.

And there are a lot of "Christian" organizations that are battling for donations and using Homosexuality as the bait. Their scientific basis? "The Bible said so".

We have more problems in our culture than men who know how to decorate their homes well. As long as a person's sexuality is the not thrust in my face, I couldn't care what they do in their bedroom.

As we have seen with the recent kidnappings of little girls, heterosexual men can be just as vile, evil and disgusting as your worst homosexual fears.

16 posted on 07/29/2002 12:59:49 PM PDT by toupsie
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NARTH is an excellant org. Dr. Joseph Nicolosi has done a tremendous amount of work in helping homosexuals recover their heterosexuality.
17 posted on 07/29/2002 1:00:58 PM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: toupsie
Hahahahah are you decieved.
18 posted on 07/29/2002 1:01:52 PM PDT by Khepera
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To: Polycarp
What always amazed me about homosexuals especially in the movies is how they could play love scenes with women ( Rock Hudson etc )

Actor or not there is noway they could get me to play love scenes with a man.
19 posted on 07/29/2002 1:05:39 PM PDT by uncbob
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From the time my younger brother was about 6 years old, we knew the boy was a fruiter....

The most repected researchers on this issue believe the homosexual tendency is a delay in normal psychosocial development that occurs before age 6. Your illustration bolsters that argument.

There was never a question of choice with him, he was ALWAYS a drag queen!

The most repected researchers on this issue believe the homosexual tendency is a delay in normal psychosocial development, not necessarily "chosen" beavior per se, but definitely not genetic.

And since it is a delay in normal psychosocial development it can indeed be treated, often quite successfully.

If it was genetic, it could not be treated.

If it was solely a "choice" as some bible fundamentalists/literalists assert wrongly, it would be much easier to successfully treat.

20 posted on 07/29/2002 1:06:43 PM PDT by Polycarp
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