(FLORIDA) Panhandle Man Invents Bullet to Prevent Accidental Shootings (NRA Member)

AP Breaking News ^ | 29 July 2002

[Travis McGee]

Yeah, the old "store your guns and bullets in two different safes at opposite ends of your house" line of advice.

No thanks!

[herewego]

Aww c'mon.
Sarah knows what's best!

[harpseal]

There is always a market for stupid ideas that are a solution to a non existant problem. Phineas T barnum was a brilliant man.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[lawdog]

It's NOT about SAFETY. The gun grabbers are STATISTS and TOTALITARIANS. They will never be happy until private firearm ownership is in the dust bin of history. It's about CONTROL. It's SUBJECT control cause you sure as hell can't be a FREE CITIZEN living on your knees!

[Myrddin]

In your typical revolver there are six 'chambers', if the shell casing expanded to block one 'chamber' -- you merely, pull the trigger again to bring a new 'chamber' into position. If the casing expands as it enters the barrel and obstucts it -- Then the 'live' round would cause the gun to explode. Prehaps, I'm missing something here??

You're missing something. If you build a "squib" round with a bullet and primer and no powder, the bullet lodges in the forcing cone. The cylinder will not turn and can not be opened. The only recourse is the use a wood dowel or brass rod to tap the bullet back into the cylinder/casing to clear the jam. I reload thousands of rounds each year and inevitably have a squib or two from a bad powder feed. I had a bunch of them in the last 2 months as I was developing new loads for the Magnum Research BFR revolver in 45/70. The case was insufficiently filled with powder and the primer simply scorched the powder and drove the bullet into the forcing cone. Adding a wad to keep the powder back against the flash hole or adding more powder to fill the case was the solution to the squib problem. I opted for the "more powder" solution as I intend these rounds to knock down a bear or a moose.

[Squantos]

Well his method works well......nobody's gonna get hurt with his product unless they drop it on their big toe. I have to admit I really used to think there was a limit to ignorance. Man was I ever wrong.

Stay Safe Bro I gotta get some rack time !

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Do you have a link for this article?

Search AP news...it will be there. I was too lazy to post the link. AP Breaking News (use Drudge Report link).

[Travis McGee]

Magnum Research BFR revolver in 45/70.

That sure don't sound like no sissy gun! LOL! How many hands does it take to shoot it?

[Squantos]

We're gonna have to meet over at the AZ-NM border someday........do a lil plinkin wid my .500 linebaugh ruger bisley........maybe on some sod poodles, yotes ect ect........:o)

Stay Safe !

[Myrddin]

You can shoot it one-handed...once. Seriously, it has "cowboy" grips typical of the Ruger Blackhawk series. It rolls in your palm. A round built for a Trapdoor Springfield (stock, factory ammo) can be fired with one hand with no problem. The rounds I worked up using 300 gr FN Lasercast bullets with 45 gr of H4198 have slightly less recoil than a 255 gr jacketed FN .454 Casull using a small rifle primer and 34 gr of Winchester 296. The principal difference in felt recoil is due to the heavier frame and 10" barrel on the BFR. If you shoot 20 rounds of the .454 Casull from a Ruger .454 Casull w/7.5" barrel, you will have stinging palms and nerves rattled to the point that a cold beer, a few ibuprofen and a nap seems like a great follow up. The BFR isn't anywhere near that brutal.

[harpseal]

I am presuming the BFR stands for Big F***ing Revolver . A rifle firing 45/70 gets my attention. I have fired the .500 handgun cartridge, a .460 ruger and a .454. I do not wish to be first in line firing the .45/70. I shall leave that to others.

Stay well - Stay saf e- Stay armed - Yorktown

[wardaddy]

Didn't you win a 45/70 a while back?

That cartridge sure has legs doesn't it?

[HeadOn]

Put me on record as thinking this is a bad idea - but I do understand how it might function, for both semi-autos and revolvers. If the "bullet" gets deformed (longer) when the firing pin hits it, it would block the revolver chambers from turning. It would also not eject from the slide of a semi. (although, without powder, it would not send the slide back in the first place....)

[harpseal]

Yes, In May at the friends of the NRA dinner here in my area of CT I won a Marlin .45/70 carbine. It is a sweet shooter and I love it. Unfortunately there is not much game in New England that really needs this much cartridge. But for some of the Coyotes we now have arround it really does the job.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[Travis McGee]

I think I'll take a pass on shooting the BFR as well. I'd probably blow a blood vessel and suffer permanent nerve damage.

[Eagle Eye]

It IS a stupid idea because it reduces the need to adhere to, teach, and enforce Rule #1 when dealing with firearms.

We cannot improve safety by taking shortcuts. If a gun cannot be safely available loaded, it should be unloaded and stored properly. Storing it with an object in the chamber to prevent first round AD's violates safe use and safe storage rules.

[Myrddin]

Magnum Research expands BFR as Biggest, Finest Revolver. Just as RTFM means "Read the Fabulous Manual". I picked up a matching Marlin 1895G to go with the BFR. The BFR is only rated to 31,000 PSI. The Marlin rifle will tolerate 40,000 CUP per manufacturers spec. A Ruger #1 in 45/70 can be loaded to 50,000 CUP. That will certainly give your shoulder a tweak. The BFR will chamber 300, 405 and 500 gr bullets. I think the Marlin stops at 405 gr due to the chamber geometry and the tube feed magazine. The Ruger #1 is a single shot and will chamber anything in the 300 to 500 gr range.

[pocat]

You can't beat the kids' gun safety program outlined in your post. Period.

[jwalsh07]

Has the makings for a slew of Darwin award winners.