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To: JudyB1938
Judy, Mexican immigrants work in those conditions. NO native born Americans of any race will do that.

There have been hundreds of thousands of hotel rooms built in your city since 1969. I don't want to be crude frivilously ... but, how many people in Vegas vomited tonight on carpets, bedspreads, towels etc.? How many people used ashtrays and waste baskets as spitoons? Bathroom duties don't ALWAYS take place in the bathroom in the stupor that commands some visitors. Dumping out 40 beer bottles and cigarette laden cocktails into a sink you have to then make pristine is no fun. Cleaning around the toilet of a room housing four 22 year old men on party patrol is less fun.

Immigrants do those jobs. Those jobs suck, and they don't pay very well. Those jobs will never pay well, even though most are covered by unions. I planted trees and laid sod, I stocked shelves at warehouse food stores at 11 pm, I cleaned rental cars and I walked around a warehouse filling orders of Maybelline products, Bic pens and Goody combs. I wouldn't do it now, but I did it when I was 17 and it was virtuous work because that was all I was QUALIFIED to do. Nobody hired me as a financial planner or a 767 Captain back then. I made crap money, I did crap jobs. I'd be working with Mexicans at those jobs today, if - given the coddling of parents these days - I'd be working those jobs at all.

The prosperity of your state is in large part due to the contributions of ALL those folks who do the hospitality service jobs. The fact you pay no income tax. Judy, my first visit to Vegas was in 1982, and every maid at the Desert Inn was Mexican. I went to New York as a kid, stayed at the Holiday Inn in Manhattan, and every maid was Puerto Rican. In 50 years, the maids might be from Afghanistan or Niger. The third generation Mexican Americans will be doctors, architects, entrepreneurs, journeyman carpenters and bankers. That's America.

14 posted on 08/01/2002 3:23:43 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
You write as if I am against Hispanics. That's truly amusing, given one of my own grandchildren is Hispanic. No, I was merely stating facts in how the demographics of Las Vegas are changing. You obviously took it wrong.

As far as what you wrote, you do exagerate things. I really take offense at what you said about Americans refusing to do work and refusing to work in the heat. You're wrong, buddy. Very wrong. I've been in this town a LONG time. All of that work was needed before the Hispanics moved in, and it was whites and blacks who did it.
15 posted on 08/01/2002 7:47:25 AM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: ArneFufkin
"Mexican immigrants work in those conditions. NO native born Americans of any race will do that."

if this was not such a common and WRONG opinion i could have a good laugh at this line.
16 posted on 08/01/2002 10:17:57 AM PDT by jody
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To: ArneFufkin
"There have been hundreds of thousands of hotel rooms built in your city since 1969. I don't want to be crude frivilously ... but, how many people in Vegas vomited tonight on carpets, bedspreads, towels etc.? How many people used ashtrays and waste baskets as spitoons? Bathroom duties don't ALWAYS take place in the bathroom in the stupor that commands some visitors. Dumping out 40 beer bottles and cigarette laden cocktails into a sink you have to then make pristine is no fun. Cleaning around the toilet of a room housing four 22 year old men on party patrol is less fun. "

My heart is bleeding for them. If you have no education, can't speak English, don't have the proper papers to work here then you should be damn glad you have a job PERIOD. Plus no one is forcing them to work there! Also they take what they do earn and send 1/2 of it back to Mexico so that it never helps the American economy. I find them to be nothing but a plague on society.

17 posted on 08/01/2002 12:20:44 PM PDT by Chi-Town Lady
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