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To: LostTribe
For Example: The Lost Sheep of the House of Israel are a unique sub-set of Gentiles who are Israelites, but not Jews. From a Jewish perspective they are Gentiles

That is absolutely false. The lost tribes, if they could be found, would NOT be considered gentiles ("goyim" in Hebrew) according to Jewish law. No descendant of Jacob is a goy. The Ethiopean Jews have been declared (whimsically, perhaps) to be the tribe of Dan and are, therefore, not gentile.

Recognizing that "Gentile" simply means "not quite like us"

I do not know the etymology of the word gentile, but the word Jesus would have actually used would have been "goy," which means any descendant of Noah other than the house of Jacob.

Jesus was both an Israelite and a Jew

I do not understand what you mean by that, other than that all Jews are also Israelites. According the geneologies of Jesus in the New Testament, he was clearly of the house of Judah.

31 posted on 08/05/2002 11:10:55 AM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Inyokern
>>The Lost Sheep of the House of Israel are a unique sub-set of Gentiles who are Israelites, but not Jews. From a Jewish perspective they are Gentiles

>That is absolutely false ... according to Jewish law.

But Jewish Law and Tradition are not worth a bucket of warm "spit" when it comes to ascertaining historic truths.  Most "tradition" is really "damnable tradition".  By our traditions we make void the word of God!

>No descendant of Jacob is a goy.

Goy, schmoy.  The Biblical and historic record are crystal clear as to who are Jacobs descendents.  Please read the 3-MINUTE HISTORY at my FR LostTribe profile below to view the historic record.

>The Ethiopean Jews have been declared (whimsically, perhaps) to be the tribe of Dan and are , therefore, not gentile.

That the problem with so much of history.  Too much of it "have been declared (whimsically, perhaps)".  It's not about culturally "declaring" anything, it's about actual history.

>>Jesus was both an Israelite and a Jew

>I do not understand what you mean by that, other than that all Jews are also Israelites.

There is nothing difficult about that.  Jesus was an Israelite, being descended from Israel/Jacob.  He was also a Jew, being descended from a tribe which was part of the Southern Kingdom returned from Babylon.  Jews are not defined as being from Judah.  They come from Judea, and include Levites and some Benjamites as well as Judahites.

All Jews are Israelites, but most Israelites are not Jews.
 

32 posted on 08/05/2002 12:56:41 PM PDT by LostTribe
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