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To: Luis Gonzalez
Ta-dah!!!! So, 4'10"? I say that you are actually shorter than that.

I'll FRmail you my address and you can come see for yourself, Lu. P.S. I am still waiting for all that information you were going to post in defense of the KKK's reputation as Southern gentlemen.

Feel free to cut&paste to this thread my promise to do anything as bizarre as that. You're a liar, boy. Too bad nobody is as impressed with you as you are with yourself.

150 posted on 08/04/2002 10:41:10 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: Twodees
I never claimed that you promised anything DeeDee, is English your second language?

I did enter into an argument with you where you made certain claims that I asked you to substantiate...you never did, and instead left the discussion.

Posted by Twodees to Luis Gonzalez
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"The Klan is blamed on Southerners for good reason.

Nope, there's no connection wahtsoever between the modern day KKK and the paramilitary organizations of the military occupation the South which were all referred to as klan by the press. The modern KKK was formed by northerners and became a national organization based in the north in the early 20th century. Indiana, Michigan and Illinois are still big KKK strongholds. There's more KKK activity up there than in the South. Naturally, you prefer the liberal media's version of the "truth". At least you remain true to form.

Posted by Twodeesto Luis Gonzalez Aug 1 1:53 PM

"They go by the same name today as they did then, by the same name, they dress the same way, they hold the same principles, and they the promote the same ideals."

No, Mr. newcomer to these shores, there were a lot of different names which the newspapers and magazines of the time referred to as the klan no matter what the actual name was, the had an entirely different aim then than they do today, the uniforms were invented for the new national organization formed by yankees, because the old paramilitary organization used nothing but bedsheets and flour sack masks.

Posted by Twodees to Luis Gonzalez

Sure, Lulu. I'm a "defender of the klan" and you're a "conservative". As usual, you forget what the argument is about and wander off grabbing up off subject BS to make a point that doesn't even relate to what I said.

Today's klan has no connection with the original resistance groups of 1866-67. None. Period. Also, most of the activity of today's klan is in northern states. The KKK was dead until it was revived by yankees in the midwest. Today's klan is part of that organization, not part of the short lived, now disbanded organizations of the years immediately following the war. Refute that if you can. Naturally, you're far more likely spend hours refuting something I didn't say in this response than to refute what I asked you to refute, but if it keeps you occupied, then I've done my part.

Imbecile.

Posted by Luis Gonzalez to Twodees Aug 1 9:00 PM "The original klan was disbanded by its leader, Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest in the 1860s. The yankee revival of a media created myth about the reconstruction era klan took place in the early 20th century."

"Around the time of World War Iqv a new Ku Klux Klan, patterned after the original one, made its appearance. The resurgent group began in Georgia, where William J. Simmons dedicated it at a cross-burning on Stone Mountain on Thanksgiving eve, 1915. The success of D. W. Griffith's epic film of the same year, Birth of a Nation, based on Thomas Dixon's novel The Clansman (1905), with its vivid portrayals of Radical Republican excesses, had helped to fan the flames of racial animosity, which had smoldered since Reconstruction. Also fueling the fire was a growing American nativist movement with its concomitant distrust of Catholics, Jews, African Americans,qv and other "foreign" elements. At first the new Klan grew slowly, but in the aftermath of World War I, the organization spread rapidly, not only in the South and Southwest, but also through the Midwest and to both coasts. At its height in the early 1920s the new Klan boasted some two million members. As before, its members or those posing as Klansmen perpetrated acts of violence, and although atrocities were committed across the nation, they were generally concentrated in the South. Some Texans were receptive to the Klan's angry and insular message, and by the early 1920s membership in the state organization numbered in the tens of thousands. Hooded legions paraded in Texas cities and towns, and cross-burnings, intended to show the power of the "invisible empire," became all too common."

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/KK/vek2.html

Posted by Luis Gonzalezto Twodees

Aug 3 0:34 AM

Imbecile?

Tell you what, why don't we try something really novel, and YOU substantiate one damned thing that you claim.

Liar, spinner, and Klan apologist that you are, I am sure that you won't.

As I said, you can't substantiate a single thing you claim....

192 posted on 08/04/2002 11:09:20 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Twodees
"I'll FRmail you my address and you can come see for yourself..."

No need, I've known it for quite some time.

209 posted on 08/04/2002 11:20:24 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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