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To: dirtboy
"And it's time to stop tearing down and start building."

You're right. Any suggestions as to how that can be accomplished?

It always seems like the dems have their blueprints in place and they're all working on building the same house.

Conservatives seem to have five or six different plans and we're each going to build our own and see who gets it done first. In the meantime we're all running around lighting the other one's partially finished structures on fire so we have a better chance of "winning".

Not very constructive.

I don't think many here would argue that GWB could be more conservative and we'd be happier. Unfortunately that makes him virtually unelectable.

I have to agree with Mr. Robinson on this one. I'm willing to take small steps in the "right" direction, knowing that the alternative is unthinkable.

I happen to believe that the mentality that says they're either going to stay home or vote third party to "teach him a lesson", is teaching the wrong lesson.

Every time we do that, the next electable candidate for the GOP goes further to the center. I think the message they're receiving is that about 60% of the country is in the middle and that's where they'd better govern from.

Funny, people have very short and selective memories. I loved Ronald Reagan, but he signed a lot of legislation that was less than conservative. He granted amnesty to illegals for one. The ACU wrote a scathing review and in his own words, he would never be able to please the far-right because for them it was all or nothing.

George W. Bush, like Ronald Reagan, realizes all too well that they are the President of all Americans.

The fact is that there are two areas that matter most to me. National defense and the judiciary. On both of those subjects there can be no argument that Bush is a conservative. For now, that's enough for me. I'm willing to support him for those two reasons alone, and work here in MN to get Wellstone out of the Senate.

Now, if he gets control of the Senate and keeps the House, and there is no change, then there's a problem. But for now I believe he has his eye on the ball and that's the 2002 elections. If we fail there, we'd better all pray real hard that there are no USSC retirements in the near future.

569 posted on 08/05/2002 2:25:49 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: terilyn
Well said....
573 posted on 08/05/2002 2:31:59 PM PDT by deport
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To: terilyn
You're right. Any suggestions as to how that can be accomplished?

I wish I were that smart, but I only scored a 135 on that IQ test folks are taking elsewhere on the forum :^)

Seriously, it's gonna take a lot of effort. We're gonna have to win this battle one person at a time, because we have the newspapers and the media and the publik skools and the vast majority of the federal government aligned against us. But IMO the first step is to cement your own alliances. Then, you fight in the marketplace of ideas, and there we have the upper hand, BECAUSE WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF-EVIDENT. And that is something just about everyone on this site shares - but, sadly, we don't realize how great our shared values are, but instead dwell on our differences.

576 posted on 08/05/2002 2:35:50 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: terilyn
Oh, and BTW, kudos to the rest of your post as well. It's the kind of well-written, well-thought-out defense of one's position that we need more of on FR. Nothing wrong with solid intellectual debate - that is what should differentiate conservatives from leftists...
577 posted on 08/05/2002 2:45:56 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: terilyn
Excellent post. You have named my two most important issues too. I have one other issue which I shall not post here, as it would take the discussion off in an entirely different direction. President Bush is NOT where I want him to be on that particular issue, but I am not yet convinced he won't be....WITH a Republican House and Senate.


583 posted on 08/05/2002 2:58:53 PM PDT by justshe
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