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5 cent tax per bullet on agenda in CA, smoking age to 21, suing gun manufacturers-Legislative alert
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Posted on 08/05/2002 4:26:51 AM PDT by chance33_98

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To: Brad C.
Gun stores could form Shooter's Clubs. The cost to join the club would be $20.00 (pick your price) per month. One of the benefits of the club could be 3 free boxes per year of cartridges in the member's favorite calibre. Result: No "bullets" sold - no tax collected.
21 posted on 08/05/2002 7:41:00 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: exmarine
I left a few years back, the only things I miss are the liberals - but my aim is improving :)
22 posted on 08/05/2002 7:41:13 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Didn't I read about a gang banger who was stabed in 1999 or perhapps it was 2000.

Very Messy, was it a Case Knife or Buck Knife, I can't remmber.

Here come the taxes and law suits for manufactors of scisors, nail clipers, pen knife, letter openers, ice picks, chain saws, tacks and nails, little league bats, steel pipe, razor blades, bikes, garrotes, loging chains, diapper pens, steak knife and more.

A great day for new taxes and law suits. oh to live on the left coast!

23 posted on 08/05/2002 8:03:58 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: TYVets; All
I would guess the tax would be on the length of the knife or total surface area. Also, would this mean that the police have to pay a tax on bullets too? And since our taxes are used for the police budget I guess we would be paying taxes on taxes.
24 posted on 08/05/2002 8:11:37 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Since we cannot tax stupidity, which would be a windfall every time a liberal democrat pol opens his/her mouth, perhaps it is time to hit them where it hurts, like taking their jobs away? Recall the bastards, can that not be done by the public? I would think we have had it up to HERE, every time some liberal idiot has a brain fart they try to make it another damn law. And all their laws do is create a world where the left calls all the shots. Arrgh!
25 posted on 08/05/2002 8:14:44 AM PDT by W.
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To: scripter
If I lived in CA I would drive to another state too. Even if I had to waste an entire day to do it. F-Them!
26 posted on 08/05/2002 8:25:10 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Sgt_Schultze
The cost to join the club would be $20.00 (pick your price) per month. One of the benefits of the club could be 3 free boxes per year of cartridges in the member's favorite calibre. Result: No "bullets" sold - no tax collected.

Good Idea, I assume you're talking about cases of 1000 and not the puny 50 round boxes. It would be a squeeze cutting back to 3000/year on the range.

27 posted on 08/05/2002 8:44:34 AM PDT by TC Rider
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To: chance33_98
Shot Gun Shells, would the tax be based per pellet or per shell?

1 ounce of #9 shot equals 585 pellets, at 5 cents per pellet that is $731.25 per box of 25 shells.

Last year I fired slighty over 9,000 shot shells, my taxes $263,250.00+. The Kalicommies have a tax goldmine. .

28 posted on 08/05/2002 8:56:48 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: W.
we cannot tax stupidity...

What CA (and every other state, but let's let CA take the lead on this) is a legislative tax. Each state representative gets taxed $0.01 per word for every bill passed by the state lawmakers. No exemptions.

29 posted on 08/05/2002 9:36:46 AM PDT by Fudd
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To: chance33_98
* WORKERS: California could be the first state to allow workers to take paid leaves from their jobs to care for a new child or seriously ill family member if the Assembly approves a bill by Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica. Other job-related bills would tie the state minimum wage to increases in inflation, authorize binding arbitration of farm labor disputes and require companies that offer severance pay for managers to also provide it for hourly employees.

Try owning a small business here in Kalifornia, our employees are treated like family, yet every year a new law comes into effect that actually hurts our employees. Workers Comp. is out of control, costs me more in premiums which takes away money for our employees for health care, vacations etc. I could go on and on and on.............

30 posted on 08/05/2002 10:04:05 AM PDT by jdontom
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To: jdontom
Well, we should make them have the money for the wages come out of the government budget. Wonder what their view would be then? Of course, they would probably just up taxes to pay for it...
31 posted on 08/05/2002 11:03:03 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: jdontom; All
The complete list:
   

* ACCOUNTING REFORMS: The Senate has approved an Enron-inspired bill that would bar auditors from also doing consulting work for their clients, but a similar measure died in the Assembly in May. Another Senate approved bill would authorize fines of up to $100,000 for company officers who fail to report corporate fraud.

* BASEBALL: A bill moving through the Assembly would require professional athletic teams to test their players for performance-enhancing drugs. The measure by Sen. Don Perata, D-Oakland, was prompted by reports of widespread steroid use in baseball.

* DEATH PENALTY: A bill by Assemblywoman Dion Aroner, D-Berkeley, would carry out a U.S. Supreme Court ruling barring executions of mentally retarded murder defendants. It's awaiting action in the Senate.

* EDUCATION: Bills to tighten controls on charter schools, authorize voucher payments that could help students attend private schools, make it easier for gifted students to attend college early and require that students be taught about proper nutrition are all awaiting action.

* ELECTIONS: California's primary election date may be moving again. Critics say the March primary is too early to attract many voters. Sen. Ross Johnson, R-Irvine, has a bill that would move the election to June for state and congressional candidates. The presidential primary would remain in March.

* GUN CONTROL: Perata has a constitutional amendment that would put a five-cent tax on each bullet sold in California to raise money for hospital emergency rooms. Perata is also one of the authors of twin bills that would allow gun manufacturers to be sued for damage caused by their weapons.

* HIGH-SPEED RAIL: A bill by Sen. Jim Costa, D-Fresno, would authorize the sale of $9 billion in state bonds to begin construction of a high-speed rail system linking California's major cities. It's in the Assembly Appropriations Committee.

* HOUSING: Bills to spur development of small backyard rental units known as ''granny flats,'' warn residents that unpaid homeowner association dues could lead to foreclosure, fine cities that shirk their share of affordable housing and require landlords to pay tenants interest on their security deposits are awaiting votes. Also on lawmakers' agendas are bills to fight homelessness and require new or remodeled houses with swimming pools to have safety features to prevent children from drowning.

* OPEN GOVERNMENT: A constitutional amendment to bolster the public's access to government meetings and records has passed the Senate and is awaiting action by the Assembly.

* SMOKING: A bill that would raise the legal smoking age from 18 to 21 is moving through the Senate. Assemblyman Paul Koretz, D-West Hollywood, says his proposal would make it tougher for minors to get cigarettes.

* TAXES: A hotly debated plan to share local sales-tax revenue among cities and counties in the Sacramento area faces a crucial vote in the Senate Local Government Committee. Supporters see the plan as a potential model for equalizing funding between older and newer communities and to stem urban sprawl. A bill by Assembly Speaker Herb Wesson, D-Culver City, would offer tax breaks to movie companies that do production work in California.

* TELEPHONE PROFITS: A bill by Assemblyman Rod Wright, D-Los Angeles, would suspend rules requiring California's two largest telephone companies to share part of their profits with their customers. It's awaiting action by the Senate.

* WORKERS: California could be the first state to allow workers to take paid leaves from their jobs to care for a new child or seriously ill family member if the Assembly approves a bill by Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica. Other job-related bills would tie the state minimum wage to increases in inflation, authorize binding arbitration of farm labor disputes and require companies that offer severance pay for managers to also provide it for hourly employees.

32 posted on 08/05/2002 11:05:35 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: Fudd
They would go broke quick.
33 posted on 08/05/2002 11:59:07 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: chance33_98
* GUN CONTROL: Perata has a constitutional amendment that would put a five-cent tax on each bullet sold in California to raise money for hospital emergency rooms. Perata is also one of the authors of twin bills that would allow gun manufacturers to be sued for damage caused by their weapons.

Get this. Pistol Packing Don Perata has a CCW. Check out:

http://www.liberty-belles.org/resources/hallofshame.htm

* WORKERS: California could be the first state to allow workers to take paid leaves from their jobs to care for a new child or seriously ill family member if the Assembly approves a bill by Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica.

And who is going to pay for all this? We're in a recession as it is. Brilliant solution! Tax us more and sock to the businesses, who supply jobs ...

34 posted on 08/05/2002 12:12:40 PM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: chance33_98
Here is some info that Californians should know. I suggest all you Californians give Perata a call or fax. Perata just to let him know you care. 1515 Clay Street #2202 Oakland, CA 94612 (510) 286-1333 Fax (510) 286-3885

This California constitution amendment (SCA 12) should be in the Revenue and taxation committee around now. Just in case I've included this info. Here is a link to the status of SCA 12. The hearing date is 8-7-02 so you don't have much time.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/p...B&author=perata

Contact the Democrats on the Revenue and Taxation committee of the Senate

Revenue and Taxation
Jack Scott (Chair)
215 N. Marengo Avenue, Ste. 185
Pasadena, CA 91101
(626) 683-0282
Fax (626) 793-5803

Dede Alpert
1557 Columbia Street
San Diego, CA 92101
(619) 645-3090
Fax (619) 645-3094

Debra Bowen
2512 Artesia Blvd., #200
Redondo Beach, CA 90278
(310) 318-6994
Fax: (310) 318-6733
senator.bowen@sen.ca.gov

John Burton
455 Golden Gate Ave.
Suite 14800
San Francisco, CA 94102
Phone: (415) 557-1300
No fax number.

35 posted on 08/05/2002 12:42:11 PM PDT by Sigarmed
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To: wcbtinman
I'm with you brother! BTTT!

EBUCK

36 posted on 08/05/2002 1:53:29 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: Sgt_Schultze
How would the Shooter's club avoid taking the tax hit?

EBUCK

37 posted on 08/05/2002 1:55:01 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: *puff_list
Ping!
38 posted on 08/05/2002 1:55:23 PM PDT by Fraulein
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To: NEWwoman
Tax us more and sock to the businesses, who supply jobs ...

That's the plan. Rob Peter to pay Paul and tax Paul to pay Peter for his losses. All the while the bureaucracy take 40+% off the top. It is a great plan....for bankruptcy!

EBUCK

39 posted on 08/05/2002 2:00:52 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: chance33_98
Do these people ever pass laws that matter?
40 posted on 08/05/2002 2:05:50 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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