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To: Owl_Eagle
Wait, I know, maybe it’s because from 1948 through 1994, there were 21,000 murders in South Africa. Since Comrades Nelson, Winnie and Mbeki took over in late 1994, there have been 176,000 murders. I guess a brutal murder in South Africa just isn’t news anymore.

South Africa needs a leader. Someone who could make its black population realize the impression they are sending to the rest of the world. Blacks should have worked hard to make the country better, under their rule, than it was under white. Instead, they give the idea that without whites, keeping them in line, they act worse than animals. They had the perfect opportunity to prove whites were wrong, and they flushed it; just like African Americans did with desegregation.

8 posted on 08/05/2002 7:14:57 AM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: Razz Barry
South Africa needs a leader

Amen! The South Africa experiment is exhibit A in why we should demand a better/moderate leadership for the Palestinians before giving them a state. South Africa is being flushed down the toilet & taking blacks and whites with it.

14 posted on 08/05/2002 8:12:32 AM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: Razz Barry
Instead, they give the idea that without whites, keeping them in line, they act worse than animals.

I think we can stop calling it an "idea" and start calling it a "fact".

18 posted on 08/05/2002 8:34:56 AM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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To: Razz Barry
South Africa needs a leader.

They don't need a leader. It is not poor leadership that has led them to their current condition, which can only be described as horrendous and deteriorating as quickly as a country can deteriorate.

South Africa needs a new people. It needs a people who can work together. It needs a people who care just a little bit about those outside of their immediate sphere. It needs a people who have some sort of vision for the future, and not merely of the past. It needs a people willing to use the tools at hand, which are not insubstancial, and build with them. It needs a people who have integrity and self-respect, a willingness to be educated and have pride in their country. It needs all the things its current people seem to lack.

Perhaps those living in South Africa could become this new people, but it would require a rebirth of the entire nation for that to happen, and it seems far too intent on death, rather than birth.

Like much of Africa, South Africa seems intent on returning to the state it was in before the Europeans arrived and intervened. If that is the case, if that is what they collectively want, then I think we should be considerate enough to let them go.

Tuor

20 posted on 08/05/2002 8:50:49 AM PDT by Tuor
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