Oregon Fire Fight Hampered by Cooler Weather

KGW TV ^ | 5 August 2002 | GILLIAN FLACCUS

[blackie]

Right-on !!

Stop the attacks by the wacko, extreme left-wing, enviro-nazis terrorist's on our Freedoms !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

[EBUCK]

Did you get my E-Mail?

EBUCK

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

At Risk: Portions of the towns or communities of Cave Junction, Kerby, Selma, O’Brien, and Agness; Gardner Ranch; private lands east of McCaleb Ranch; Late Successional Reserve; threatened and endangered fish; Illinois and Rogue River wild and scenic rivers; campgrounds."

Maybe it should say "At Risk:threatened and endangered fish and the Illinois and Rogue River wild and scenic rivers. We have a chance to eliminate the communities of Cave Junction, Kerby, Selma, O’Brien, and Agness; Gardner Ranch; private lands east of McCaleb Ranch; Late Successional Reserve"

[blackie]

Yep, and I answered it... :o)

[EBUCK]

Got it, cool.

EBUCK

[Grampa Dave]

The fire fighters now have two objectives:

1. Containment of the total fire, and the cooler weather will help with that for a few days.

2. To build safer longer/wider fire containment lanes with back burns. To have successful back burns, it can't be too damp/wet or under a total inversion layer.

What is dangerous about this fire is that it can simper down during these few favorable weather days. Then towards the end of the week, if it gets hotter as predicted and the winds shift to the NW. Then the fire can get whipped up again and jump the fire containment lines if they aren't big enough.

The fastest and most economical way to increase the width and length of the fire containment lines is via backfires.

If the winds are in the wrong direction and too fast, how big of a fire containment line can a fire jump?

This weekend, the fire in the Dalles, Oregon side jumped the Columbia River and set fires on the Washington side. If you ever saw how wide and deep the Columbia River is at that spot, you would say that was impossible for the fire to jump the Columbia River. It jumped it.

Last but not least due to the fact that there are no roads in and into the wilderness area, with zero timber and brush removal for 10+ years, they will just have to let it burn itself out over the next few weeks. They can only hope to contain it in a circle around the fire. This is where the back fires are need to widen that containment circle. This little fact is not being told to the public.

[Grampa Dave]

This "At Risk: Portions of the towns or communities of Cave Junction, Kerby, Selma, O’Brien, and Agness; Gardner Ranch; private lands east of McCaleb Ranch; Late Successional Reserve; threatened and endangered fish; Illinois and Rogue River wild and scenic rivers; campgrounds!"

Should read as, Thanks to the uncontrolled fire due to the Eco Fascist Agendas in the Wildnerness areas, the following are at Risk of Rural Cleansing by massive enviral agenda fire: Portions of the towns or communities of Cave Junction, Kerby, Selma, O’Brien, and Agness; Gardner Ranch; private lands east of McCaleb Ranch; Late Successional Reserve; threatened and endangered fish; Illinois and Rogue River wild and scenic rivers; campgrounds.

If this rural cleansing by fire happens, this will remove the vile humans from this wilderness area, even if it is nothing but ashes.

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

Severe weather alert for Wed. Increasing temps, winds & lower humidity along ridge tops in Sw Oregon. Hopefully we'll make progress on this thing tosay & Tuesday. The severe weather will last until Sat.

I'm off to the Lake Grampa

[Granof8]

Isn't it the first time they have acknowledged this?

"threatened and endangered fish"

[EBUCK]

This weekend, the fire in the Dalles, Oregon side jumped the Columbia River and set fires on the Washington side. If you ever saw how wide and deep the Columbia River is at that spot, you would say that was impossible for the fire to jump the Columbia River. It jumped it.

Wow! That is a long ways to jump!

That looks like nearly a third of a mile.

EBUCK

[Grampa Dave]

Good luck and may you rip the lips off of dozens of Barber Boxer look alikes, the short nosed bottom feeding sucker fish. Then catch a few trout!

[Grampa Dave]

They are probably trying to set up a no fishing zone from where the Illinois River flows into the Rogue River and down stream to the ocean.

That would just about seal the fate on the fish related businesses which most of Gold Beach businbess are. They have been trying to do this for 10 years. This is rural cleansing by economic terrorism via a green fasctist agenda.

The guides, motels, restaurants, sporting good stores, the chamber of commerce and other related fish catching businesses had better be on the alert that this could become a rallying point of the envirals in Oregon including their poster boy governor, Katznslobber.

According Lars Larsen today, Oregon has the highest unemployment rate in the country. That is directly do to Andy Kerr, the ORNC, the rabid anti business envirals and their poster boy governor. 5 years ago Kerr said that too many people lived and worked in Oregon. These fires are just another rural cleansing tool.

[Grampa Dave]

(Link to the news about the fire being carried across the Columbia River, 500 yards to set a fire in Washington, with the fire in Oregon)

[RightWhale]

Oregon Fire Fight Hampered by Cooler Weather

The threat to the Illinois Valley has dropped because of progress with burnouts and the cooler weather

Cooler weather will usually aid fire control, all other things being equal.

[Granof8]

First it was the miners;
Then it was the loggers;
Then it was the farmers;
Then it was the commercial fishermen;
Then it was the upriver boats;
Then they come for the rest of tourist industry.

It's not going to be pretty when the fall rains start to run off either.

[bybybill]

How did we ever let this happen?

[Grampa Dave]

You asked the most important question of the past century and this century re the survival of our country.

"How did we ever let this happen?" re the envirals controlling us.


After two decades of brain washing, we just sat back and let these elite enviral fascists take over the control of our natural resources, our water, our air, our minerals and destroy our property rights.

Without being elected, they bought out and elected congress critters and governors, and then saw to it that card carrying Enviral Lawyers from hell became judges.

Then congress and the various states passed laws which handed over the control of our natural resources to these Fascists. Then, their enviral judges accepted bad science or no science to punish the rest of us and to set into effect Rural Cleansing starting with the loggers and the spotted Owl actions. Suddenly bad laws based on bad science were used to rural cleansing thousands of Americans and put thousands of people out of business.

No one screamed foul and threatened to tar and feather those guilty of the rural cleansing of the the loggers, the mom and pop timber farms and mills. In fact most Americans cheered that these evil loggers and timber people could not cut trees any more.

As seen by these fires and the postings on Free Republic, less than a hundred freepers could care less what is happening in Oregon or that 17,000 people were in ultimate peril.

The elite enviral fascists work 24/7 to advance their rural cleansing agendas and anti America/American agendas in the name of clean air, hug a critter and/or a tree.

What has happened in Oregon and in SW Oregon has the same blood lines/DNA trails for every state and every county in the country.

If we try to speak out against their agendas like the rural cleansing agendas in Oregon, we are label as kooks, right wing radicals and spoilers of the environment.

If a Christian Group owned 200,000 acres and made them into a tinder box just waiting for lightening or human arson, the press would never stop telling us about the dangers to the enviroment these evil Christians had done. Then if the Christians had tried to limit access to their 200,000 acres, they would have been accused of a hate crime.

The final key is the just about complete support of their agendas by the American mediots who control what is said or printed on TV and the fishwraps.

For socialism, fascism, communism or enviralism to appear to be successful and a good thing, they must control the media.

Just look in the Portland area and ask the question, when did a logger, a farmer, a rancher or any target of the envirals ever get a fair play in the media?

The Eugene Pravda, aka the Eugene Register is apparently blaming this fire on global warming and evil capitalists.

Just look at the few buyers of EBuck's great bumper sticker here on conservative haven, Free Republic. That tells me that even the conservatives on Free Republic for the most part are closet Greens. If a person is a closet Green, they are not a conservative. If you don't despise the Green Fascists and battle them 24/7, you are not a conservative. The Fascist Greens are the most dangerous people to our American life on earth.

[BOBTHENAILER]

The Fascist Greens are the most dangerous people to our American life on earth.

Amen to that and a big BTTT for your essay, which is very well done.

[Tennessee_Bob]

The total area RI is 1,214 square miles or 776,960 acres.

http://inside.salve.edu/walsh/ri_statistics.pdf

[bybybill]

The wackos have ruined this state; highest unemployment in the country, high income tax,9 1/2%, big fires everywhere, and now the Oregonian Sunday had a front page story that said it would cost to much to clean up the woods so we should just accept the fires.

Loggers could lower the fire risk by cutting some trees and selling the wood which could cover the cost of clean ups. Guess that just makes to much sense.