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Linux Waddles from Obscurity to the Big Time
USA Today ^ | August 5, 2002 | Byron Acohido

Posted on 08/05/2002 1:40:16 PM PDT by ShadowAce

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:39:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SEATTLE -- When investment bank Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein began making the switch to the Linux computer operating system in 1999, it did so to save money.

The Germany-based bank sought a less-costly way to calculate risks associated with its portfolio of investments. So it replaced 32 computer servers, based on the time-tested Unix operating systems, at an average cost of $50,000 each, with 40 Linux servers, at $3,000 a pop.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Technical
KEYWORDS: linux; microsoft; unix
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1 posted on 08/05/2002 1:40:16 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3
Penguin Ping
2 posted on 08/05/2002 1:40:43 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: Dominic Harr
This may be of interest
3 posted on 08/05/2002 1:41:10 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: ShadowAce
"The Unix servers took 17 hours to calculate how much cash the bank needed in reserve to offset its investment risk. The Linux servers made the same calculation in 11 minutes."

Ummm ... pause for stretching the ol' credulity muscles. A decrease from 17 hours to 11 minutes implies somthing quite a bit more than a switch from some labeled Unix to Linux happend. <EOM>

4 posted on 08/05/2002 1:44:45 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Most of that probably happened to the increase in the number of servers as well as the change of OS.
5 posted on 08/05/2002 1:46:23 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: ShadowAce
Linux should go after the Game Market...then they'll be in firm competition with Micro$oft.
6 posted on 08/05/2002 1:47:07 PM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: Maelstrom
They're working on it. I know Quake and several other FPS are out there for it. Railroad Tycoon is available. There are several unique (to Linux) games as well.
7 posted on 08/05/2002 1:49:58 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: ShadowAce
"Software developers who make their applications Linux-ready risk losing their proprietary products to the public domain, Microsoft warns."

Hahahahahaha hohohohohohoho, oh, I'm dying... I think I ruptured something... ya sure... read the Visual Studio license and tell me what the real source of trouble for developers could be? You gotta have titanium nuts to make a claim like that.

8 posted on 08/05/2002 1:52:44 PM PDT by eno_
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To: ShadowAce
Well being as the new system is quoted as being 92 times faster, that would be a lot of new servers -- and might suggest they re-did their algorithm to be so scalable. In such case the speed-up wouldn't be accorded to the linux directly, but to the cheap cost of adding a new linux server.
9 posted on 08/05/2002 1:54:56 PM PDT by bvw
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To: ShadowAce
bump!!
10 posted on 08/05/2002 1:55:19 PM PDT by milestogo
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To: bvw
I use Linux and love it, but those numbers are junk. I think they bought new computers which would explain the speed up. A Linux server would not cost $3000 bucks unless the $3000 was for hardware. It is hard to tell from the way the article was written.
11 posted on 08/05/2002 1:55:45 PM PDT by Crispy
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To: Maelstrom
Don't you have to get your Linux Credentials first?

LINUX CREDENTIALS

THE REASON PROGRAMMERS LOVE LINUX

12 posted on 08/05/2002 1:56:46 PM PDT by stlrocket
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To: ShadowAce
Well yeah, if these were five year old servers: CPUs 4x faster, 20-100X the memory (no paging, THAT will do wonders), 4X faster disks, etc. 50-100X faster But it also means that cheap fast hardware means all but the most demanding and exotic IT tasks can be done very very cheaply now. Even RDMSs are open software now. Who cares if Oracle is twice as fast. That Oracle license can buy more $3000 servers than you could shake a stick at. If you IT manager wants to spend millions to get something done, start asking tough questions.
13 posted on 08/05/2002 1:58:25 PM PDT by eno_
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To: bvw
Ummm ... pause for stretching the ol' credulity muscles. A decrease from 17 hours to 11 minutes implies somthing quite a bit more than a switch from some labeled Unix to Linux happend.

bump.

Perhaps those ols Sun minis aren't really as fast as claimed. DB performance is heavily influenced by how many indexes can be held in memory. You can get 3 gigs of DDR on a cheap motherboard in the PC world.

14 posted on 08/05/2002 1:59:31 PM PDT by js1138
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To: ShadowAce
17 hours to 11 minutes? Fer crissakes, fire the original programmers!
15 posted on 08/05/2002 1:59:31 PM PDT by TheEditor
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To: bvw
Ummm ... pause for stretching the ol' credulity muscles. A decrease from 17 hours to 11 minutes implies somthing quite a bit more than a switch from some labeled Unix to Linux happend.

They probably went from having (32) Sun SPARCStation 10's (SPARC CPU @ 20Mhz) running Solaris to (40) Intel boxes (2.4 Ghz Xeons) running Linux.

They probably couldn't justify the cost to replace all 32 Unix boxes with their modern equivilents.

16 posted on 08/05/2002 2:01:06 PM PDT by Lorenb420
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To: ShadowAce
From the Sun and Microsoft view, Linux has not proved robust enough to handle computing chores much beyond the edges of corporate networks.

"Pot, meet kettle"

Seriously, I've never heard of robustness being a problem for Linux.

17 posted on 08/05/2002 2:01:48 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: ShadowAce; bvw
"The Unix servers took 17 hours to calculate how much cash the bank needed in reserve to offset its investment risk. The Linux servers made the same calculation in 11 minutes."

I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but no way was this due to the shift to Linux.

At least, there's no way I can imagine it could be. I've got tools that run on both Solaris and Linux, and there's not really that big a difference.

It's got to be the hardware.

The $50k servers were probably two years old or more, and were replaced with brand-new boxen.

I do think Linux is good, don't get me wrong. But this is a *highly* misleading intro.

18 posted on 08/05/2002 2:02:59 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
I agree. The OS doesn't have much to do with calculations, anyway. It's mostly hardware. I'll take 40 new boxes over 32 ancient ones any day of the week.
19 posted on 08/05/2002 2:05:55 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: ShadowAce
Bravo for Linux and the Penguin!
20 posted on 08/05/2002 2:06:36 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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