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The Blindness of American Jewish Liberals
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| 07 August 2002
| Stephen A. McDonald
Posted on 08/08/2002 5:25:40 AM PDT by SJackson
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posted on
08/08/2002 5:25:40 AM PDT
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
Time for this group to "Line Up For Showers". "Fold your clothes neatly and place them on the shelf...they will be there for you when your shower is done!"
To: SJackson
I'm afraid it is. The radicals maybe a minority in the Jewish community at large but what they lack in numbers they make up for it with committed organized and activism. And that they get free coverage in the anti Israel media helps them to spread views that otherwise would have been lost in the din. Once the loony bin segment of the American Jewish community was a fringe element but a decade of committing Oslo in Israel transformed them into a mainstream force to be reckoned with. It will take American Jews a lot longer than their Israeli counterparts to throw off the spell of enchantment with appeasing terrorists and monsters who are out to harm Jews and other living things. But in the long run they will come around. Its just a question of time.
To: SJackson
How is it that American Christians are able to see the bias against Israel and act somewhat in a unified manner, while American Jews uphold the criticisms of Israel fronted by Media, Inc.? It is sad to say this, but not all Christians are pro-Israel. Many people but not all in the following Christian traditions are guilty of feeding the indifference, anti-Semitism and hostility to the nation of Israel: Catholics, Lutherans, "progressive" dispensationalists, etc. If I neglected to name a particular scripture-twisting cultic group that has turned it's back on God's people, then feel free to name your group if you claim to be "Christian" yet choose to hate Israel.
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posted on
08/08/2002 5:45:00 AM PDT
by
fishtank
To: SJackson
You should see what's happens in Israel.
Some of then actually supported an attacks by the Tanzim against settlers.
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posted on
08/08/2002 5:49:21 AM PDT
by
Kaafi
To: SJackson
It would be helpful if the Ultra-Orthodox Jews and the Christian Right would stop linking every event in the world to an attack on
their religion...and God, by inference.
Israel has had a tough go of it since independence and we have supported her without fail. It is past time for Israel to give back the territories and allow the Palestinians the opportunity to prove they are worthy of an independent state. I think the Palestinians will fail dramatically...but at least Israel will be given credit for trying it the way the Arabs have demanded
Would the terror attacks continue? Sadly yes...but at that point you can b e certain that I and many other American Jews will fully support any expulsion however managed.
Will Israel ever be accorded some measure of peace? No...but then we here in the United States have never freed outselves from the stench of the Mafia (all of them) even though the bloodbaths have lessened the cost has skyrocketed.
Get out of the territories.
Allow Palestinians to establish a state.
Watch the PLA fail.
Provide visas to all Palestinians who wish to remain in newly demolished Palestine and tell the others to beat it to Saudi Arabia and other Arab League Nations who will not be so happy with that arrangement.
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posted on
08/08/2002 6:00:15 AM PDT
by
harrowup
To: SJackson
"We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality."--Ayn Rand
To: SJackson
The liberal mindset is dangerous to all of us including itself. I have a Jewish friend with whom I shoot occasionally. His parents are horrified that he owns guns, knows how to shoot and enjoys it. He put everything into perspective for me, once, when he remarked,
"No Jew who is unarmed can ever say 'Never Again' and mean it"
To: harrowup
Your liberal presciption for appeasement would only ensure the destruction of the state of Israel.
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posted on
08/08/2002 6:46:42 AM PDT
by
ohioman
To: ohioman; harrowup
Actually, ohioman,its a good idea.
Of course, its already been done. Its was called Oslo, a process in which Israel and the United States created the infrastructure, government, and armed a future Palestinian state which would have consisted of Gaza and about 97% of the West Bank (no, not a checkerboard).
Now were at the end stage. The PLA has failed, and theres no reason to dance the same deadly dance with the same characters.
Its time to at least annex the 65% or so of the West Bank Israel needs to defend herself, and let them have an autonomous zone (no, not a state at this stage), preferably under a military government which might provide enough security that institutions could develop.
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posted on
08/08/2002 7:06:31 AM PDT
by
SJackson
To: muir_redwoods
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posted on
08/08/2002 7:08:12 AM PDT
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
The attendees subscribed to the short-sighted vision that a lasting peace could be attained if Israel withdrew from the occupied territories. No doubt the majority of European Jews in the 1930s were subscribing to the tenet Hitler could be appeased if he were only given a little more; after all, nobody could be that bad! This is a typical Liberal attitude, which usually lasts until the pellets are finally dropped into the chute.
Liberals everywhere delude themselves with their own professed good intentions, all the while hiding their own black hearts. Then they expect other people aren't hiding their own black hearts also while mouthing something else. But the truth always shines through. In this case it is obvious to all what awaits Israel if she allows the Muslims to prevail.
As Hitler did in Mein Kampf, the Muslims have been telling the Jews the end of the road is the showers, not the beach. If American Jewish Liberals choose not to believe it, well, what else is new? They never have stared the truth in the face before and heeded it!
They are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
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posted on
08/08/2002 7:29:57 AM PDT
by
Gritty
To: SJackson
Would you be surprised how many Christians are unconcerned about their fellow Christians being enslaved in Sudan? Or how many American whites are unconcerned about the treatment of whites in Zimbabwe?
American Leftists of Jewish descent are Leftists first, Jews a very distant second, Americans an extremely distant third, and Zionists hardly at all. You have to be religious to be seriously concerned about co-religionists. If you're not, then they're just "those guys over there" who are of no connection to you
To: Gritty
I tend to place secular (so-called) "Jews" not in the category of being Jews, but in the category mentioned in this passage: "I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan" (Revelation 2:9).
To: muir_redwoods
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posted on
08/08/2002 7:50:10 AM PDT
by
timestax
To: harrowup
Would the terror attacks continue? Sadly yes...but at that point you can be certain that I and many other American Jews will fully support any expulsion however managed. How many more Jews have to die before you arrive "at that point"?
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posted on
08/08/2002 7:51:52 AM PDT
by
Alouette
To: SJackson
Well this shows that these limosene liberals are not selectively liberal, like many politicians. They are completely indoctrinated.
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posted on
08/08/2002 8:05:40 AM PDT
by
mgist
To: SJackson
"the greatest force working against Israel is liberal secular Jews who wish to follow the Clintonesque path of appeasement a path that led to the current sad state of affairs." Hey--they did the same thing in Germany just before and after Hitler came to power. Same mentality, having learned NOTHING from history. The Jews who say "Never Again" and arm themselves to the teeth are the ones with sense.
To: SauronOfMordor
Would you be surprised how many Christians are unconcerned about their fellow Christians being enslaved in Sudan? Or how many American whites are unconcerned about the treatment of whites in Zimbabwe?Nope. Dont forget Pakistan and Viet Nam.
Actually, Im not so sure its a leftist thing, they care, theyre just wrong. For most American Jews, Israel really isnt very high on their radar screen, same with your example of Sudan. If we can barely get half the country to vote for a President, and a majority of those are voting a party line, youre really looking at a small slice of the population who care about any single issue. Really, its sad.
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posted on
08/08/2002 8:12:31 AM PDT
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
s well hit this bull right in the butt.it is the liberal jews who near 100 percent who own,control,write,manage
and full blown control the news.....that has been proven
here on FR many times via links of ownership
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