"bruises, black eyes, cuts, swelling or chipped teeth": Guns on College Campus?

Keep and Bear Arms ^ | 8-8-02 | Angel Shamaya

[kms61]

I'm a gun owner and support the 2nd amendment, I have mixed feelings about this...I was sitting in the foyer of my fraternity house when a bullet came through the ceiling from a room upstairs. I guy had been "playing" with a .38. Another friend had a pistol pulled on him in a drunken altercation with another college student.

There's a safety issue that cuts both ways....crime prevention, to be sure, but I also think a substantial number of college age kids are mature enough to be carrying weapons unsupervised. Flame on.

[kms61]

That'll teach me to post without proofreading. That should read, I also think there are a substantial number of college students who aren't mature enough to be carrying weapons unsupervised.

[Shooter 2.5]

Tell us exactly what the punishments were in both cases.

What you're saying is "I saw a car accident involving two college students. I think college students should not have access to cars."

[kms61]

Neither was punished, since nobody reported either incident to anybody in authority. Should have, but didn't...

"What you're saying is "I saw a car accident involving two college students. I think college students should not have access to cars.""

Not at all. Just that in my experience, firearms, alcohol, and postadolescent males can be a volatile mixture. Some kids that age are not ready for the responsibility, and in my college experience, ironically the ones who were the least mature were the ones who were most drawn to the idea of having a firearm. There were guys I knew who had guns on campus. Some I felt comfortable around. But with many of the others I immediately went the other day as soon as they brought their weapon out.

I realize this is just my experience. Others may vary. And I'm not coming out for a ban on college students having firearms. I just have some mixed feelings about it.

[Shooter 2.5]

"Neither was punished, since nobody reported either incident to anybody in authority. Should have, but didn't...

I don't particularly care for the "let's punish everyone because we don't want to punish the guilty" attitudes we have in this country.

[ReadMyMind]

What you're saying is "I saw a car accident involving two college students. I think college students should not have access to cars."

I've got no problems with the concept of preventing college students from driving....I guess I'm getting old.

[El Gato]

'bruises, black eyes, cuts, swelling or chipped teeth'.

Like their (hopefully former) Imperious Leader, I guess the gun grabbers think that the victims should just "put some ice on it". Of course that particular "leader" has a vested interest in potential rape victims not being armed. After all, he knows about rape, although from the perpetrator's viewpoint, rather than that of the victim.

[El Gato]

I thought they had admissions standards to weed out morons.

Not at public universities, they take all comers. There are a few exceptions, in some states the more prestigious schools are allowed to discriminate, but some school in the state must still take anyone who graduates from a high school in the state, even if they can't read their diploma.

However, I don't want to be hanging out with a whole pack of heavily armed morons.

So don't, after all who are you, or the state, to really decide what constitutes a "moron" for purposes of denying someone the RKBA. If it were up to the state, you'd have to have an SAT score higher than 1500 to qualify. Of course that still wouldn't mean much. The validictorian of my high school class, who was also one of the two Presidential Scholars, allowed each state every year, I'm sure had a higher SAT score than that, yet he wasn't *responsible* enough not to become one of those drunken and drugged out frat boys. Inside of a couple of years, he had lost his free ride scholarship due to poor grades.