[ReadMyMind]

A female 'friend' of mine was a freshman at college who went to some frat party hosted by seniors (what a scam they have going there, huh?) and was forced to perform oral sex on one of them. My ex-sister-in-law was at a similiar function, got too drunk and was raped. A girl I went to high school with was gang-raped by a bunch of frat boys at a party.

Ok, there's something a bit fishy with this logic...first post says: 3% of college girls experience rape or attempted rape in a year. This post describes three women without enough sense to avoid drunken frat boys.

If 3% of college women are dumb enough to go drinking with frat boys when they do not want to have sex with them, they are certainly too dumb to be trusted with guns. I have to wonder what the heck they're doing in college in the first place. I thought they had admissions standards to weed out morons.

P.S. I am NOT in favor of gun siezure laws. However, I don't want to be hanging out with a whole pack of heavily armed morons.

[SJackson]

If you think all rapes on campus are the result of drinking "parties" you're dreaming. It's a violent crime, that's all too common. And in Looking4Truth's examples, the fact that a girl is drunk does not excuse the commission of a violent crime, any more than mugging a drunk does.

That's not really the issue though, no one is advocating mandatory arming of coeds or drunks. The issue is whether a responsible individual (and CCW regulations weeds them out pretty well) should be allowed to be armed. And the deterrent effect that one or two individuals out of a hundred have on violent criminals.

[Vic3O3]

This post describes three women without enough sense to avoid drunken frat boys.

Perhaps some of them were working on their MRS degree?

[kms61]

I'm a gun owner and support the 2nd amendment, I have mixed feelings about this...I was sitting in the foyer of my fraternity house when a bullet came through the ceiling from a room upstairs. I guy had been "playing" with a .38. Another friend had a pistol pulled on him in a drunken altercation with another college student.

There's a safety issue that cuts both ways....crime prevention, to be sure, but I also think a substantial number of college age kids are mature enough to be carrying weapons unsupervised. Flame on.

[El Gato]

I thought they had admissions standards to weed out morons.

Not at public universities, they take all comers. There are a few exceptions, in some states the more prestigious schools are allowed to discriminate, but some school in the state must still take anyone who graduates from a high school in the state, even if they can't read their diploma.

However, I don't want to be hanging out with a whole pack of heavily armed morons.

So don't, after all who are you, or the state, to really decide what constitutes a "moron" for purposes of denying someone the RKBA. If it were up to the state, you'd have to have an SAT score higher than 1500 to qualify. Of course that still wouldn't mean much. The validictorian of my high school class, who was also one of the two Presidential Scholars, allowed each state every year, I'm sure had a higher SAT score than that, yet he wasn't *responsible* enough not to become one of those drunken and drugged out frat boys. Inside of a couple of years, he had lost his free ride scholarship due to poor grades.