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House Majority Leader warns against unprovoked attack on Iraq
Drudge | 08/08/02 | Drudge

Posted on 08/08/2002 3:28:02 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

House Majority Leader warns against unprovoked attack on Iraq Thurs Aug 8 2002 16:30:05 ET

House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-TX) addressed an Iowa crowd on Thursday and raised questions about whether he would support an American war against Iraq and Saddam Hussein.

"My own view would be to let [Saddam] bluster, let him rant and rave all he wants and let that be a matter between he and his own country. As long as he behaves himself within his own borders, we should not be addressing any attack or resources against him.'

"If we try to act against Saddam Hussein, as obnoxious as he is, with proper provocation, we will not have the support of other nation states who might do so."

"He has a right to hold dominion within his own national boundaries, as obnoxious as he is and as comical as he can be."

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To: tomkat
Don't tell me about it. :-)
181 posted on 08/08/2002 7:33:45 PM PDT by michigander
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To: michigander
fofl !

ok   

182 posted on 08/08/2002 7:35:22 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: OldFriend
Popping off in public about a serious foreign policy issue because he's rankled about a personal matter? I haven't thought much of Armey for a long time - but I thought more of him than that...
183 posted on 08/08/2002 7:40:11 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: justshe
We are only seeing some of the disasterous results of clinton's legacy. He left America haters buried in every institution. Some in the State Department join others left there by Carter. Every agency is riddled with incompetent people there to thwart us at every turn.

We have much to fear.

184 posted on 08/08/2002 7:40:49 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: justshe
The buck stops with him, no matter how he tries to avoid it. He is responsible, but then, he is not responsible for the mess we have now in regards to open borders and immigration, even though he contributed to the mess with his liberal/socialist/globalsim, another globalist is responsible for what has or hasn't been done since 9-11.
185 posted on 08/08/2002 7:51:59 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: caddie
The U.S. is not prepared for war.
186 posted on 08/08/2002 7:51:59 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: michigander
Michigander, could be I did misunderstand. In the case of Dumbro, I don't care how many times a person posts....or what their opinion is. Sincerely.

What I was attempting to communicate was, when Born In A Rage posted her objections to Dumbro, it was her use of the First Amendment that I commented on.

Read her statement:

"Gee whiz, Dumbo, is it okay if a person uses their 1st Amendment right of freedom of speech on the Free Republic? I'm sure you weren't trying to get a newbie to stifle his opinion on the Free Republic forum, were you? I'm sure you eren't because that would be ridiculous, wouldn't it?"

My only point was that the First Amendment does not apply in her argument. I did NOT question her opinion re: Dumbro.

I further objected to the 'tone' of her response to me.

In all of my responses to BIAR I remained calm and I thought reasonable. One of the reasons I post on FR is to learn, to expand my knowledge, and to listen to differing opinions. I do NOT use name-calling or personal attacks to make my point....ever!

BIAR was the one that decided that communicating with me was not something she wanted to do, but she decided to make her point by using derisive, pejorative statements that negated the hopes of further communication.

IF a person has a misunderstanding, I am NOT convinced that tearing another person down in order to build YOURSELF up is the preferred option.

187 posted on 08/08/2002 7:52:11 PM PDT by justshe
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To: rightwing2
Bump.
188 posted on 08/08/2002 7:53:04 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Bump.
189 posted on 08/08/2002 7:56:18 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: Dog Gone
Or giving Saddam a reason to throw a few chemical scuds into Israel now that he knows we absoultely are coming for him with the worlds support.. nope.. better to have first strike..a nd that's keeping the element of surprise.
190 posted on 08/08/2002 7:59:55 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: ProudAmerican2
What facts do you base this assessment on?

As soon as Saddam threw out the inspectors, I began assuming he was hiding something. This week he is belatedly talking about allowing some inspectors back in again, but by now we know how that works: he'll show them a few Potemkin bunkers, while stalling at letting them in to see the installations we really suspect while he shuffles the WMD's from place to place. Time to blow his tinpot empire to hell before any smallpox or plutonium can get exported to the civilized world.

191 posted on 08/08/2002 8:00:44 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: ElkGroveDan
"I still think that right around the time the bombs start falling we'll see a whole bunch of documentation of how complicit Saddam was in 9/11 and/or the subsequent anthrax attacks.

Yep.
And the best time to launch would be about the time TVs around the world are replaying their broadcasts of 9-11-01, replete with people leaping to their deaths from the towers.

Of course, if we are going to bludgeon anybody (Iran) who is remotely connected to the attack, that would be the best time, politically and psychologically, to do it. I want to see a slaughter.

192 posted on 08/08/2002 8:12:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: harpo11; Alamo-Girl; JeanS; joanie-f
Howdy,

We do not currently have the logistics capability, to establish the additional logistics chain which we need to be able to operate on our own, in the middle-East.

We need bases in Africa, Europe, and southern Asia.

We need quite a lot more of transport aircraft and the maintenance depots to handle them.

This shopping list, is actually very lengthy. Yet so many of officialdom inside the Beltway, have been concerned about saying "No" to the higher-ups of the Bush Administration, we are not really getting the more accurate picture of how un-prepared for war, are we.

The velocity of money which manifests "white papers" about "the mission" and "new paradigms" has also fostered (during Clinton) a "community" of impractical thinkers, read: dreamers.

What the "future battlefield" may be, and writing about it, has been a method for advancement, both in and out of uniform, in the "defense bidness."

There is quite a lot of hype about what the future battlefield ... well, now supposedly it's here. I guess "you" could say that it is, considering that the language of it --- a whole "dialog" of defense "gobbledygook" --- has been spun and then spins itself up into "a life of its own."

To wit: There's a lot of talk about how "missions" will be fulfilled by "systems" ... but that works on paper.

In reallity, ships get sunk or fail to arrive on time. Aircraft wear out (you'd be amazed how fast). People wear out. Etc.

Not much planning has gone into the practicalities of being at war.

We need --- God forbid --- to be able to project a force overseas, which force is nearly as great as the "first wave," so as to rescue the "first wave," should the "first wave" fail. Now where are we going to get the ______ to do that?

We do not have the ships.

We do not have the aircraft.

We do not have the tanks.

We do not have the logistics supply chain to support it!

We are not prepared for war on the scale we must be prepared, to be able to unequivocably THUMP! whoever "pulls a fast one on us" in the flank, or rear ... as we descend upon whoever our enemies may be, in the lands surrounding the Fascist Islamic bastions.

We might, repeat might, "get some respect" over there, we could have, had President Bush actually been consistent; but he has not been consistent.

He has said many bold things about finding the rocks under which our enemies live, but he has also sheltered our enemies. Furthermore, his convictions are seriously questioned by other possible allies, because he is grossly equivocating on the matter of our nation's borders and illegal aliens.

Then, there's the little matter of his insisting that we continue with helping North Korea to become a nuclear power --- this in the current atmosphere of how we are supposed to be wary of "dirty nuclear" weapons being "popped off" in or around some American cities. About which possibility, one Mr. Padillo (sp?) is being held in considerable Constitutional duress.

Arrest and hold him, but give Plutonium to the North Koreans?!

No, President Bush is not running on an honest keel.

Mr. Armey has tried to give us a break, so that we can have the desparate time we need to gather our strength.

193 posted on 08/08/2002 8:21:33 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: jwalsh07
Were you sleeping when Hussein massacred the Kurds with WOMD? Out on a date when he tried to assassinate the POTUS? Suba diving when he was launching scuds at Israel? Out to lunch while he rewards terrorists who kill Jews and Americans with cash stipends of 25,000 bucks?

You left out the use of chemical weapons against the Iranians. However, he chose not to use WMD against the coalition forces during the Persian Gulf War.

Bottom line: he is not a threat to us.

194 posted on 08/08/2002 8:22:06 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: tomkat
unless the '2' means you've been booted before ...

Means someone already had ProudAmerican.

195 posted on 08/08/2002 8:23:52 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: zcat
And as long as the doves stay out of it and let the military do what they are trained to do it should be over by Monday morning..;.

Not likely...

196 posted on 08/08/2002 8:24:56 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: ppaul
Oh well, I suppose 3,000 Americans murdered on 9/11 was not a "provocation", eh, Mr. Armey?

Except the administration has not been able to establish a link between the terrorists and the Iraqi government.

197 posted on 08/08/2002 8:27:33 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: Drumbo
You sound like an idiot when you mispell government.

No. If I call him an idiot, then I would have been calling him a name.

198 posted on 08/08/2002 8:29:14 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: Drumbo
You have made 19 of 84 total posts. That's 23% - almost 1/4 of the total. That's dominating imho.

Get a life...

199 posted on 08/08/2002 8:29:41 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: unix
BTW, what branch did you serve in?

Army

I'm just curious if you know firsthand what Iraqi's do to innocent's. There's two types of Iraqi males; those that think they have the upper hand and go on melee's, and those that don't think they stand a chance and run like little b*tches. Right now, their trying to run, and ol' Saddam is chopping off their ears if they try. provokation (sic)...pfft..

Horrible, but not a threat to American interests.

200 posted on 08/08/2002 8:32:05 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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