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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
So serious scholars are only those who agree with you. My my it doesn't even matter to you that these documents were the southern equivalent (in their day) of the federalist papers and the declaration of independence.

Nonsense. Having researched the Texas one, I can speak to it directly. It was nothing more than a non-binding legislative resolution passed after the fact.

The Texas equivalent of the DoI was the legally binding ordinance of secession that stated several causes for secession and enacted it by law upon popular approval of the state's voters. Slavery was not mentioned among any of its causes.

Similarly, the Texas equivalent of the federalist papers would probably be found in the campaign preceding that referendum.

55 posted on 08/09/2002 3:15:01 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
Nonsense. Having researched the Texas one, I can speak to it directly. It was nothing more than a non-binding legislative resolution passed after the fact.

It listed in detail the reasons that Texas seceded.  To dismiss it out of hand is not the work of a serious scholar.

The Texas equivalent of the DoI was the legally binding ordinance of secession that stated several causes for secession and enacted it by law upon popular approval of the state's voters. Slavery was not mentioned among any of its causes.


However, if you take a look at the second, third and fourth paragraphs of the Texas ordinance of secession the matter becomes quite clear.  The second paragraph mentions that neither citizens nor the property of citizens of Texas are protected.  The third paragraph claims that the Northern states are in violation of the compact between the states.  The fourth paragraph indicates that Federal Government is being used as a weapon to strike down the interests and property of the slave-holding states.

Tell me, what property was the north trying to destroy that belonged to the south?  What interests of the southerners were the northerners trying to strike down?

Nothing specific is mentioned in the secession ordinance as to causes for secession. Similarly, the Texas equivalent of the federalist papers would probably be found in the campaign preceding that referendum.


Yes, nothing specific is mentioned directly.  However, it was understood that the property that the slave-holding states were most concerned about was slaves.

Yes, I was a bit over the top as far as comparing the Texas legislation to the Federalist Papers.  However, I only meant that they gave greater and more explicit detail on what was meant by the secession ordinance.
169 posted on 08/12/2002 6:51:24 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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