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Carson springs up again (DDT Ban Kills Humans)
UPI Wire ^ | 8/11/2002 | Gordon S. Jones

Posted on 08/11/2002 7:19:03 AM PDT by Skooz

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To: Gladwin
I am amazed that some of the people on this thread deny that insect resistance is even possible.

I haven't seen anyone argue that. They have simply pointed out that DDT might retain benefits (such as repelling insects) even after they become resistant.

So far, you haven't made a logical argument yet. The above argument is a straw man fallacy, your bird shells/other species damage argument is both ignoring the opposing arguments and data, and your main premise is an ad hominem that those of us who support DDT are doing so from "bad motives" (ie. agricultural uses) combined with a straw dog fallacy.

Until you stumble across a logical argument by accident ('cause I doubt you could generate one on purpose), you're not worth debating...

61 posted on 08/11/2002 7:35:29 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin)
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To: Gladwin; Charles H. (The_r0nin)
Well, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

In other words, you have no proof for your irrational fear of DDT. It's bad beacuse it's bad.

Post 61 nailed it.

62 posted on 08/12/2002 4:18:45 AM PDT by TomB
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To: TomB; Charles H. (The_r0nin)
I gave you the link to a 1989 textbook on Malaria, and quotes from it. The fact that you guys only have junkscience links is hardly forms an argument. If you read that site, there is always the unnamed conspiracy of "them" or "they" makes it hardly reliable.

DDT cultists are a discredit to conservatives.

63 posted on 08/12/2002 11:21:35 AM PDT by Gladwin
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To: Gladwin
I gave you the link to a 1989 textbook on Malaria, and quotes from it. The fact that you guys only have junkscience links is hardly forms an argument. If you read that site, there is always the unnamed conspiracy of "them" or "they" makes it hardly reliable.

ONE TEXTBOOK!? That's it? And I gave numerous studies, not texts, which aren't peer-reviewed, that show little or no correlation between DDT and shell thinning.

Amazing, you present no evidence and then look at mine and, with a wave of your hand, make it go away. Sorry, there's too much there to ignore.

DDT cultists are a discredit to conservatives.

Environmentalist wackos who swallow any junkscience thrown at them are a discredit to conservatives.

Do you support Sen. Joe Lieberman's attempt to have the United Nations oversee a worldwide ban on the use of DDT?

64 posted on 08/12/2002 12:22:58 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Gladwin
”Really, there is a DDT cult in the USA, and they are people that want you to sprinkle it on your breakfast cereal. I believe that this cult is not interested in the welfare of African babies, and is really a stalking horse for the agricultural uses of DDT. The return of malaria in the Third world is due to insect resistance and agricultural misuse.”

Until you brought up the conspiracy aspect of the DDT issue, it’s not something I had considered. On further reflection, I have come to the conclusion that those who support a ban of DDT are racists who want to kill off the people in less developed parts of the world.

Thank you for opening my eyes.

65 posted on 08/12/2002 6:09:16 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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