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Report Urges Scrutiny of Internet Cigarette Vendors
AP via TBO ^ | Aug 12, 2002 | Steve LeBlanc

Posted on 08/12/2002 5:53:56 PM PDT by John W

BOSTON (AP) - States are losing millions in tax dollars as more people buy cigarettes from online vendors who routinely ignore a federal law requiring them to report sales to local regulators, a new report says. The trend could undercut efforts by cash-strapped states to raise revenues by hiking cigarette taxes. In Massachusetts lawmakers recently approved a 75-cent hike on a pack of cigarettes, a move officials hope will bring in an extra $190 million annually. In Illinois, the state boosted cigarette taxes by 40 cents to a total of 98 cents a pack.

New Jersey and New York state both have a $1.50 per pack tax, the nation's highest. Washington state is third, at $1.425.

Federal law requires Internet cigarette sellers to provide state revenue officials with names and addresses of their customers. The officials can then pursue the buyers to make sure they pay local sales taxes.

But Internet cigarette vendors openly flout the law, known as the Jenkins Act, according to a report by the U.S. General Accounting Office to be released Tuesday.

"Our Internet search efforts identified 147 Web site addresses for Internet cigarette vendors based in the United States. None of the Web sites posted information that indicated the vendors complied with the Jenkins Act," the report said.

In fact, according to the report, 78 percent of the sites indicated that the vendors do not comply with the law.

The report recommends shifting primary enforcement of the law from the Federal Bureau of Investigations to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, in part because of the FBI's heightened focus on terrorism.

Calls to several Internet cigarette vendors advertising "tax free cigarettes" were not returned to The Associated Press on Monday. One Web site told buyers "We do not report to tax authorities in ANY state. 100% confidential."

The cost to states can run into the millions, according to the report.

Officials in California estimated a tax loss of approximately $13 million from May, 1999 through September, 2001 because of the failure of Internet cigarette vendors to comply with the federal law.

By 2005, Internet tobacco sales in the United States could exceed $5 billion and states could lose about $1.4 billion in revenues, according to the report.

U.S. Rep. Martin Meehan, D-Mass., requested the report, which he said reveals a burgeoning market of online cigarette sales.

The lack of oversight lets children illegally purchase cigarettes online, said Meehan, who plans to file a bill requiring Internet cigarette shops to verify the age, address and identity of purchasers before shipping tobacco products.


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21 posted on 08/12/2002 6:58:23 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: jrushing
Next to nicotine, I heard TAXES are the hardest to quit. Some states should give it up for their health and all.
22 posted on 08/12/2002 6:58:46 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: John W
Why should the smokers carry the weight of the states! We are TIRED of it!!!!

INDIANA SMOKERS' CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE STATE ECONOMY - 2001

California Smokers'Contribution To The State Economy -2001

MICHIGAN SMOKERS' CONTRIBUTION TO THE STATE ECONOMY - 2001

ILLINOIS SMOKERS’ CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE STATE ECONOMY - 2001

MASSACHUSETTS SMOKERS' CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE STATE ECONOMY-2001

23 posted on 08/12/2002 7:00:02 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: John W
Maybe the Government should cut spending. No it is too logical.
24 posted on 08/12/2002 7:02:46 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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To: John W
The lack of oversight lets children illegally purchase cigarettes online, said Meehan, who plans to file a bill requiring Internet cigarette shops to verify the age, address and identity of purchasers before shipping tobacco products.

This is absolute BS! What parent in their right mind will give a credit card to a kid to buy cigarettes over the net!

This is inaccurate, deceitful and dishonest information they are spewing! As for losing the honey pot for the state coffers: TOUGH CHIT! It was their own fault they taxed us to high heaven, then turned around and banned and try to control us. They can't have both.

25 posted on 08/12/2002 7:02:56 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: martin_fierro
As a nonsmoker, I'm still waiting for the tax cut I'll doubtless receive due to tobacco-related medical expenses being covered by these new taxes.

I just want to SLAP anyone who makes that asinine statement. We smokers pay MORE then our fair share for health insurance! And most of us HAVE our own health insurance, thank you!

The Tobacco Settlement Money was supposed to pay for any sick smoker who HAD no health insurance, should there be any. But oh no! The states had to buy new roads and lap tops and all the little pet programs for the DemocRATS!

Don't tell me! I have studied this in it's entirety!

26 posted on 08/12/2002 7:08:12 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: John W
Perhaps someone could please post a 'price breakdown'
...wholesale price, retail markup, fed tax, state tax, etc...
for a pack of premium cigs. I don't understand how something
that looks to me like it could be made for a quarter, ends
up costing four bucks.
27 posted on 08/12/2002 7:08:15 PM PDT by greasepaint
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To: John W
The trend could undercut efforts by cash-strapped states to raise revenues by hiking cigarette taxes.

GOOD! That's what they get for thinking they could balance their budgets on the backs of smokers.

28 posted on 08/12/2002 7:14:40 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: denydenydeny
Does this include American Indian stores? I don't think they can be charged with ANY federal or state taxes--someone correct me if I'm wrong.

The Reservations are Soverign States:

Read Their Lips: No Taxes/New York

On a June day, customers streamed into Chief Wallace's shop, a small pine-paneled store with walls of cigarettes and cases displaying Indian-made jewelry and moccasins. Cars filled the small parking area and newcomers had to park by the bushes or down the road. Yet exactly how thriving these businesses are is unclear, because the shop owners — who seem to feel vilified by just about everyone except their loyal customers — are unwilling to say.

When asked how many cartons of cigarettes he sells per month, Chief Wallace, a stocky man wearing two braids, denim shorts and flip-flops, responded, "It's none of your business."

So one could explore the economics this way: A reporter watched seven cartons of cigarettes being sold inside Chief Wallace's shop in five minutes one day in June. Erring on the side of caution, then, one could assume 50 cartons are sold an hour. The shop is open 13.5 hours a day every day, which translates to 675 cartons a day, 4,725 cartons per week, or 18,900 per month. (And that does not include phone and Internet orders.) At an average price of $27.50 per carton, Chief Wallace would take in about $520,000.

Chief Wallace shrugged and lighted another cigarette. "If they're so bad, make them illegal," he said. "In the meantime, leave me alone."

29 posted on 08/12/2002 7:15:09 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: ninenot
Roll your own! For under $8.00, I can roll a beautiful carton of cigarettes. Been doing this for over a year now, and the savings has been mind boggling!


30 posted on 08/12/2002 7:18:12 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: martin_fierro
As a nonsmoker, I'm still waiting for the tax cut I'll doubtless receive due to tobacco-related medical expenses being covered by these new taxes.

That's right. The tobacco taxes and lawsuit awards were supposed to offset the big bucks these sick diseased smokers are costing the rest of society.
Like you I'm still waiting for my tax cut.
Where's all the money going?

31 posted on 08/12/2002 7:24:14 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: KevinDavis
Why should they? They just take more of our money, none of us will do anything about it.
But one day the build up will explode and the 2nd American revolution will occur.
The world will s**t in their pants, because we will not take their c**p anymore.
32 posted on 08/12/2002 7:27:25 PM PDT by Crusader21stCentury
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To: denydenydeny
The Indian stores can in some places charge the equivalent amount of tax but they get to keep it if they do. I think CA made that arrangement with some
33 posted on 08/12/2002 7:31:17 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: SheLion
That basic starter kit is CHEAP!
34 posted on 08/12/2002 7:32:59 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: SheLion
Maybe this didn't come through in my post, but I agree with you. I was being sarcastic. Cigarette taxes are a cynical sham.
35 posted on 08/12/2002 7:37:14 PM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: RikaStrom
That basic starter kit is CHEAP!

It's wonderful, Rika!

36 posted on 08/12/2002 7:45:31 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: martin_fierro
Maybe this didn't come through in my post, but I agree with you. I was being sarcastic. Cigarette taxes are a cynical sham.

OUCH! Sorry, martin! ~whew, I sure am touchy about this subject! Can't say I don't believe in what I am fighting for! Forgive me?


37 posted on 08/12/2002 7:51:26 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
I can't stand smoking and for health reasons I avoid it most of the time, but, and there is always a "but" isn't there this whole anti smoking campaign is ridiculous.

If smoking is so bad then ban it outright, but they can't do that cause the government has become dependant on the revenue generated by the taxes. Now we are in a situation where they are suposedly trying to reduce smoking and increase revenue. Looking ahead, if a carton now is $40.00 and half the current smokers quit will taxes be raised to offset the reudction so that the same carton is $80.00 ??

Seems like thats where this is headed.

Beam me up indeed.
38 posted on 08/12/2002 8:01:13 PM PDT by Leper Messiah
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To: SheLion
Yo SL: you had a post a few weeks ago about rolling your own and sticking it to the states. Got one of the rolling machines you recommended, and it is great! [Premier, I think. Available at Yesmoke.] I chortle away as I roll, enjoying my own little tax revolt and better smokes. HAH!

Thx for the tip. FReepon.
39 posted on 08/12/2002 8:14:20 PM PDT by the crow
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To: SheLion
You lionesses are a volatile bunch!

But it's your nature. <|:)~ 'pology 'cepted.

40 posted on 08/12/2002 8:14:51 PM PDT by martin_fierro
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