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To: bonesmccoy
your lack of medical knowledge is so large that it is only seconded by your ego!

Ditto

as I said - you'd never make any of my decisions concerning my health...

After quoting a lengthy paper on ''whole'' cell Pertussis vaccine and the observation of waning immunity, the fact that we use ''acellular" vaccine appears to have been forgotten!

The fact is no offices have used whole-cell in our area for years!

Lastly, increasing evidence of new contagion and spread of wild Pertussis is appearing in the American population.

wow - vaccines are really effective at providing immunity...

I'm conjecturing that incomplete immunization in the community has permitted evolution of a Pertussis variant that must not be completely prevented by the Aventis or Glaxo Smith Kline vaccines.

your wrong here too... wow what's good for Aventis and GSK is good for me, my children and the rest of The USA...

vaccinations have failed to totally protect the public as they have promised to do...

your here answer will be to vaccinate again and again - and if that doesn't work - keep vaccinating some more...

you have no other answers - you vaccinate, give medication, and then surgery - how come there are people in this country who have never been vaccinated and have never had a problem?

Now, when these totally preventable diseases kill, where will you be mister?

telling it like it is mister - just like I am doing now - I have only asked parents to think through their vaccination decisions - you in turn have told them that they are mandated and must regardless of their questions and/or objections have their child(ren) vaccinated. Have you ever heard of informed consent?

As if we can rely on your medical expertise to successfully intubate, run IV antibiotics, quantify hemodynamics, and then wonder why the chiropractors are allowed to call themselves a doctor.

what does this have to do with vaccinations - are still grinding your axe?

If we do smallpox this way, we should just surrender!

you surrender mister - I am going to continue to do as I have done to protect myself and mny loved ones...

235 posted on 08/21/2002 1:01:14 AM PDT by krodriguesdc
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To: krodriguesdc; Kozak; aruanan; bonesmccoy; Jim Noble; discostu
vaccinations have failed to totally protect the public as they have promised to do...

If you make a statement like that, this statement"

I am advocating safety in vaccines...

Is a complete lie. If you are going to claim that vaccines are ineffective, you are not advocating safety, you are advocating avoidance.

But, since you brought it up, one of the greatest successes of an immunization program is a very current one, the Hib vaccine. In the late 80s, when the vaccine was introduced, there were around 20,000 cases of the disease in this country, and the number had remained steady until that point. However, once the program took effect the number of cases had dropped to only 256 in 1995.

Obviously, you cannot account for that mprovements in sanitation.

239 posted on 08/21/2002 5:37:47 AM PDT by TomB
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To: krodriguesdc; aruanan; bonesmccoy
wow - vaccines are really effective at providing immunity...

Could you tell us the difference between the whole cell and acellular vaccine?

Do you know there's a difference?

240 posted on 08/21/2002 5:40:28 AM PDT by TomB
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