Skip to comments.Making colonies out of nation-states
Posted on 08/15/2002 8:59:01 AM PDT by Korth
Will Americans ever escape the gag of political correctness? Probably not, but the English are making a last ditch effort. On Aug. 7, the London Times published an article by one of its editors titled, "Britain is Losing Britain"
Third World immigration, hitherto an unmentionable subject, is quadrupling the rate of Britain's population growth and creating a new city of immigrants the size of Cambridge every six months.
Immigration, the Times says, is transforming Britain into "a foreign land." British society is being utterly transformed "against the wishes of the majority of the population, damaging quality of life and social cohesion, exacerbating the housing crisis and congestion," and burdening the health service to the breaking point.
Finding the situation "so extreme and so damaging," the Times editor writes that "silence is no longer an option." Britain is literally disappearing. In many British cities, "you can wander around for hours without seeing a white face, one monoculture having replaced another." Yet, "immigration celebrationists" continue "to brainwash the British public into thinking that it is all for their own good. But almost every reason given to support this immigration is bogus."
"In the past five years," the Times says, "while the white population grew by 1 percent, the Bangladeshi community grew by 30 percent, the black African population by 37 percent and the Pakistani community by 13 percent. ... Whole villages in Bangladesh have been transplanted to northern English towns."
The British political order has broken down. Polls show that without question, "the large majority of British people -- including around half of ethnic minorities -- think there is too much immigration." But public opinion is powerless: "No mainstream political party dare reflect public opinion." British politicians cower before the immigration lobby and fear being called racist, Nazi or xenophobic.
Name-calling aside, the Times says that massive immigration without assimilation leads to social fragmentation. More non-Britons wish to live in Britain than are consistent with the existence of Britain. "The people of Britain have a right to decide who can move here."
The Times assertion that the people of Britain -- and not the immigration lobby -- have the right to decide immigration policy is heresy to multiculturalists. But the very next day (before anyone could burn the heretic), the Daily Mail, Britain's largest circulation newspaper, reprinted the Times article. Thus, debate has begun before hysterical "immigration celebrationists" can shout it down.
Sir Andrew Green, a career British diplomat, together with Oxford University demographer David Coleman, has formed a new organization, Migration Watch UK. These developments are shifting the burden of argument. Now immigration enthusiasts are on the hot seat. They must explain why they aren't racists for wishing to destroy Britain with massive Third World immigration.
Americans are losing their country, too, but Americans are not allowed to say so. Third World immigration to the United States is higher than to Britain. One in five of the U.S. population was born abroad or born of parents who were born abroad. This is a massive change from 1970, when new immigrants counted for only one in 20 U.S. births.
While the British worry about losing cities to Third World immigrants, the United States is losing entire states. Assimilation has broken down. In its place, Americans now endure Third World enclaves or colonies.
As the United States becomes a polyglot, how can it have any foreign policy? How much longer will the United States be able to conduct a pro-Israeli foreign policy and plan invasions of Middle Eastern countries?
The outlines of U.S. domestic policy in the New Immigrationist State (NIS) are already apparent. The tax burdens on native-born whites will rise to meet the needs of the poor immigrants. The burden of the federal personal income tax rests on a narrow base of 35 million taxpayers who are, in effect, slaves of the state. The colonization of these taxpayers will intensify, as millions of needy new immigrants enter the United States each year.
The United States, like Britain, faces extinction as a nation-state. Both countries are becoming colonies for a plethora of Third World cultures.
As one Briton put it, "We resisted Hitler in order to become a colony for Africa, Asia and the Middle East." The United States has done the British one better. We have become the world's colony.
isn't this diversity idea a good'un for the States too?
probably nothin can be done politically within our PC scene-hope i can retire/insulate my family from the majority of threats to our society(Western Culture)while i'm young.
Anonymous quote, circa early 21st century, prior to the fall of western culture...
Canadians can't speak of it either, but, why not?
Why do we have to be so politically correct as to not notice the changing demographics, and to furthermore.....like it?
An arguement for immigration is, "We take all other countries best people ... how can that hurt us?"
Well, for starters we get those best's entire family and friends out of the deal too. And our population is high enough, already.
I think that all those best people would be better off in their own countries, educating the masses there on population control. Once they all have a reasonable attitude regarding family size...(don't breed 'em if you can't feed 'em)... a reasonably sized population, they won't have to come here and turn our countries into modern day versions of the countries they just fled.
See Immigration & The American Future for an analysis of the principle issues involved. You can also link to numerous other relevant articles from the linked essay cited.
William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site
Why don't these people stay within their respective countries and work to improve them. Instead, they run from the problems and make situations worse for all countries. The only people who seem to like it are the ruling elites, as it makes it much easier to form a world government in the future. Yes, it is going to happen, the Bible says so. However, I don't know why our politicians are so misguided, so weak-kneed, so spineless to initiate such nonsense.
The whole society is messed up. I was flipping through the channels the other day, and CNN's Headline News had a story on the most "gay-friendly" corporations. They were perceiving one's "friendliness" as being good for a company. What kind of nonsense is this, that one can be so deluded, so brain-dead to say that sodomy and the social disorder of homosexuality, one that brings disease, death, sexual degeneracy, and the fall of nations, are good things to tolerate, or even celebrate.
Society has gone mad. I don't understand how the IQ's of much of the public, as well as the politicians and media, have reached single digit numbers. That's the way I see it. Society has been turned upside-down.
Back to Immigration. Though one is not sinning for being of a different culture, unlike homosexuality, mixing cultures do no mix. That is, in terms of whole nations, they don't. I get tired of hearing the substanceless cliches about America being about "Freedom", while taxes are sky-high, PC has taken hold, our cities are turning into the third world, forcing out native-born English speaking Americans, while the gun-control crowd continues to gain more ground, while the Patriot Act passes among other things.
At the rate we're going, America may not last another twenty years. Demographics may prohibit it. Yet, world government may beat demographics, for our government becomes more spineless every day in regard to the UN. They don't even want to get out of that illegitimate organization. That should tell you something about the people we have in Washington.
With regard to Britain, it should be painfully obvious that its "leaders" are either doing one of two things: 1) Falling to the disease of politicial correctness and social politics for votes, or 2) Implementing an agenda to bring about the fall of sovereign countries and rush in a World Agenda. Both appear credible.
America & the West WAKE UP
There are no conservative broadcast outlets and even if there were, there are no conservative voices to be heard. England is like we were before FOX News and the Washington Times. It's very discouraging.
The beating that Reagan (and now GW) took in the press, is nothing compared to the constant mocking, demeaning, trashing and smearing Margaret Thatcher took.
Because they got euchered into an agreement to keep immigration off the table as an issue. The Fabians have them running scared to try to live down their traditionally un-politically correct image for arrogant joy in being their once stubbornly traditional selves. It is a pathetic situation for a once proud people. (Reminds one of the new South which elects the Clintons and Carters in place of the Harry Byrds and James Byrnes'.)
Hopefully, if America wakes up, so too will the entire West. It was Leftwingers in our State Department and Academia, who pushed the present egalitarian lunacy far more successfully than the Communists, since World War II. But despite the malady affecting those who claim to specialize in world affairs, most normal citizens of every country understand that a nation is not a game of "Musical Chairs." And anyone with eyes to see and a brain to analyze, must sooner or later realize that humanity is not an undifferentiated species. Our differences are real and important; and it is a criminal insult to all of us, when the politicians let crack-pot theorists deny any of us those traits which make us unique.
William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site
Doncha remember back in the 1700's, when all these Europeans started flooding onto this continent, buying, stealing, pushing, fooling the then existant peoples out of the land upon which their ancestors had lived for centuries?
So, sit back and watch it happen again folks - payback is here!
If they're anything like the Republican Party elite in America, they're probably afraid they might actually have to pay a decent wage to the guys cleaning their swimming pools and mowing their expansive yards.
After a smearing by the Neo-Con Men, the last candidate to sound an Ameican first position got .5% of the vote. I voted for Pat, I wish most people did. Pat's Death of the West explains it all. Cheap labor transnational corporations and foreign political war interests control the politicans. Remember in November.
1. There is a signifigant number of elitists in the Stupid Parties of the West which believe that mass Turd World immigration can work with a policy of assimiliation (as if that was ever going to happen, or as if it were true anyway).
2. There is a need for a pro-business political party to court the cheap labor industry.
Thus, the Stupid Parties will do nothing except possibly slow the bleeding a bit. Third parties are going to pick up the slack, especially in Europe...I can only pray that they are led by decent men such as Buchanan, Le Pen, Fortuyn, and Haider (or for that matter women like Pia Kjaersgaard) instead of the true fascists. Time will tell.
They ultimately lost. They did not have the technological or military wherewithal to prevent it.
In every single Western homeland, we have more than enough power to stop it. The question is, are we so cowardly and stupid that we will refuse to do so?
Could it be for the same reason that the GOP won't touch the same thing?
Orders from headquarters, don'chaknow.
Nonsense. People are not goods and services. Free flow of goods and services renders free flow of people unnecessary.
Pat's mistake is that he went the 3rd party route, and 3rd parties simply cannot have an impact in this country. The design of our political system only allows for 2 major parties. Hence the only way to get anywhere is to work from within the parties. Unfortunately, immigration restrictionists haven't been doing this, Tom Tancredo being a notable exception.
You have to factor in that Pat was effectively kicked out of the GOP when he could not do a platform speech (like Keyes was this time, only Keyes doesn't realize it yet). Pat was blamed that his 1992 speech, essentially about the same topic as this thread, was blamed for the defeat of the GOP.
I think Pat knew a third party cannot possible raise the funds needed to win but he hoped to be in the debates to bring this and other ignored issues to the table.
As for working with the party, remember Bobdole would not even read the platform prepared by the grass roots. If a voter cannot even move the pile, I say let a third party be the spoiler, the message might eventually register.
The influential magazine The Spectator is comparatively conservative, as are the broadsheets The Telegraph and The Times.
The #1-selling newspaper in Britain, the tabloid The Sun is like its lead columnist Richard Littlejohn, generally conservative in outlook though not necessarily Tory in politics.
The Torys are after all not all that conservative by our lights.
Native born blacks, too, who's families have been here as long or longer than many whites. The eighties and nineties saw the black middle class finally growing by leaps & bounds - just in time to help foot the bill for the aforementioned invasion.
They ought to be screaming the loudest.
First, the tidal wave of immigrants, mostly illegal, is simply more than we can bear. With no place to go, few resources, and no legal presence, these interlopers place a tremendous burden on our social infrastructure, especially since their shadowy existence puts them at odds with accepted, conventional social norms.
Secondly, they have an artificial protection from assimilation in the form of Political Correctness. They are not only ALLOWED their ethnic individuality, it is ENCOURAGED. Therein lies the source of the fragmentation. The adopted society is forced to bend around their values rather than vice versa. Consequently, the subculture never accommodates the majority culture and intact ethnic enclaves crop up. Where the foreign culture collides with the normative culture, tension arises, conflict results, and the majority culture is pilloried as "intolerant" or "xenophobic."
The solution is CONTROLLED immigration, already unapologeticaly in practice everywhere else in the world. No other nation on earth feels compelled to open its borders to any flotsam than can wash up. But in the United States, any suggestion that we may not want the refuse from every third-world tubercular ward, insane asylum, or prison is met with cries of "racist" and "isolationist."
The current system does little for the illegals, and nothing at all for America. Why do we have immigration laws if we're not going to enforce them?
PC has taken hold
You answered your own question with those two little letters. If there are any other reasons, I would like to know what they are.
Living proof of what lack of immigration control gets you.
Only some of the free flow of people is for that. Much of it is because of miserable conditions in their homelands and things only get worse when so many make an exodus, there is no stability or growth then and conditions get even worse, more and more leave. Those same people that would demand changes that would improve the country leave and things just decline more. It's a vicious cycle.
The major Euro parties agree that certain politically-correct topics especially immigration and multiculturalism and to a lesser extent crime are not to become topics of political debate.
Consequently people who believe these are questions of national importance are driven to the wingnut British National Party or Jean-Marie Le Pen's Front National.
This is precisely correct. I lurk at democraticunderground.com a lot, and these folks want to scrape the US off the North American continent and replace it with a socialist enclave--not a nation-state, of course.
I think Peter Hitchens (my personal fave) writes a weekly column for the Sun, but it may be the Mail. I always forget because I get them all when I'm home.
There is huge section of the Tory party that's conservative, but like the old guard GOP, there are lots of go-along-to-get-along, Bob Michel Tories. I adore Ian Duncan Smith. He blows the Evil Pixie into the popcorn machine during Prime Ministers Questions.
I loved LePen's speech, in his defense, when he said, "Last week I was a respected French politician. This week, I'm the devil." So true.
Unfortunately in the modern political world of Leftwing media control and exported Carville smear campaigns, there remains two kinds of conservative candidates...the kind that is so squeeky clean as to be lifeless and the Nazi.