Posted on 08/15/2002 8:59:01 AM PDT by Korth
And, mind you, I am not mimicking the Know-Nothings. I am just as happy with Eastern and Southern European immigration as I am with Western European immigration.
Excellent post...
It's clear the Republic by that juncture will cease being the America we used to know -- It's not hard to do the math...
Already California, Massachusetts, and New York have been transformed into slam-dunk Democratic electorates, while the change in demographics in the states of Florida, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and New Jersey will also render these states political killing field for any GOP challenger. Of course the Democrats love Third World immigration, both legal AND illegal -- in other words yet another constituency dependent on free federal services and economic relief, while swearing no allegiance.
Either this administration defies the Left and pulls the plug on rampant Third World immigration soon, while bolstering American sovereinty and heritage or another civil war is a distinct possibility.
Please answer all of the above questions.
Sure. That's easy. I'm not married, so I haven't been beating my wife at all.
Like I said, we should have visa quotas that are keyed to the labor market. We admit as many as can find and keep work. We should make citizenship available to as many of these as are willing to undergo a process of education and indoctrination that is sufficiently challenging to vouchafy their strong commitment to our country.
The only hole in this little gem is the fact that almost all illegals are recieving their pay under the table...you know "off the books" hence no income tax, social security or anything else. Sales tax is about it. That won't buy all that is consumed. This is one of the most often forgotten realities when our politicians and media support these "hard working people."
Not in RATIO to the newcomers. They were not a monolithic society, either. Many tribes fought among themselves. (Golly, does THIS sound familiar?)
Assuming liberals understand logical fallacy better than conservatives. Figures, coming from a troll.
If this were NOT a Socialized country now, this would be no problem. When 'The Goverment' starts paying for services, with the money they took from you and me by force, for someone else to use....... well.
I've had it with political correctness, I can't take it anymore.
It's sad that people can't state the obvious, but instead have to spout out the same tired, worn-out, out-dated cliches that have little significance to today. Often if they do try to speak out, they always try to do it through a round-about way, muttling some of the message when, in actuality, all they have to do is state the obvious facts, giving the meat and potatoes of the argument, and not backing away.
Doesn't it get old hearing the same old, "We reach out to all people seeking "freedom"". What exactly is "Freedom". Is it large chunks of your paycheck being forcefully stolen from the government. Is it the Patriot Act? Is it having your cities turned into third world barrios? Is it not being able to speak your mind for fear of being politically incorrect, a communist mind control element. Is it tolerating the destruction of the moral structure of the country, for individuals should be free to display their overtly sexual and linguistic themes if they so choose? After all, it's a free country right? Is it having to tolerate the elimination of America's Christian tradition from public life and all aspects of society. Yeah, that's freedom, only for those who wish to tear down our country.
All this eastern, middle eastern and tribal African garb is too much. In fact, many school textbooks blatantly lie about American history, claiming that America has always been a multicultural country with no dominant culture. This, all the while showing children's pictures from around the world with their cultural clothing and exclaim that this is how America has always been. Anything from turbins to sombreros to other traditional garb is what is displayed. If I'm not mistaken, weren't individuals from most of these countries not allowed to emigrate until the 1960s. Thus, what's with all this talk of having always been here?
It's time that realistic talks were begun on the subject. No, there shouldn't be any debate, for it's a vastly cut and dry issue. There needs to be a TEN year immigration moratorium, perhaps more. H1B Visas need to be discontinued, unless otherwise noted. Student visa numbers need to be vastly lowered. Work visas need to be vastly lowered. Immigration, after the moratorium ends, must be kept to 75,000-100,000 per year, and 80% of it must come from Europe, Australia, New Zealand and Canada to allow for any type of social cohesion.
Other things that need to be done. Repeal the Anchor Baby Amendment. Increase the Border Patrol many times. Enforce laws that prohibit the hiring of illegals. Discontinue welfare to illegals in nearly every form and fashion, and deport them if they are known to be illegally here.
I can't believe the spinelessness.
Yep. I started using the handle when I was young and foolish, back in the dial-up computer bulletin board days, back before Ronnie Reagan and Maggie Thatcher got me thinkin' straight. (Although I've always been a Republican, and even though Momma let me into the booth with her to pull the lever for Goldwater, there was a period later in my youth when I used to run with the RINOs.)
The situation back in the 1700's was so different in so many ways from the situation today that I find it very difficult to draw a parallel between the two. The American Indians had very few options in dealing with the influx of European-Americans onto Indian lands, whereas Americans today have several options available in dealing with mass immigration, including even revolution as a last resort.
The neocons favor government managed trade and call it "free trade". There's really nothing free about it. Open borders are necessary for the undermining of national sovereignty. The neocons aren't conservative at all. They're simply using the term to mask the fact that they're as dedicated to the ideal of a single government for the entire world as are the democrats, though they think there'll be a different outcome for establishing a world government than the one the communists in the UN are spouting.
forget the GOP, they are free trade/open border all the way.
What the neocon contingent of the GOP is all about is government managed trade (mercantilism) and free flow of illiterate peons from 3rd world countries to provide the demographic for abolishing the form of government laid out in our Constitution. There's little enough difference between their ideal and that of the democrats in the final result as to make it proper to call them one and the same.
When have their numbers dropped? They aren't dropping now with the jobless rate being higher ---in fact they're still coming over in huge numbers. You can't leave out all the many welfare and other government programs as part of their planning. One baby born in the US brings them free housing, welfare check, WIC, food stamps, free day care at Head Start, and of course they don't have to pay a dime to get this baby.
And what facts should matter more than the obvious fact observable nearly anywhere in the US today: a massive influx of illegals who will not assimilate and are the opposite of the educated legal immigrants you're swooning over.
In case you haven't noticed, the group flooding our country and changing the demographics comes across our border with Mexico, uncontrolled, uncounted and uninvited. Address that problem and drop the posturing over the legal immigrants which you imagine refutes the contention that immigration is out of control. You haven't made a point, you've simply diverted the subject.
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