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Officers Say U.S. Aided Iraq in War Despite Use of Gas
New York Times ^ | Aug 18, 2002 | PATRICK E. TYLER

Posted on 08/18/2002 12:52:51 AM PDT by The Raven

WASHINGTON, Aug. 17 — A covert American program during the Reagan administration provided Iraq with critical battle planning assistance at a time when American intelligence agencies knew that Iraqi commanders would employ chemical weapons in waging the decisive battles of the Iran-Iraq war, according to senior military officers with direct knowledge of the program.

Those officers, most of whom agreed to speak on the condition that they not be identified, spoke in response to a reporter's questions about the nature of gas warfare on both sides of the conflict between Iran and Iraq from 1981 to 1988. Iraq's use of gas in that conflict is repeatedly cited by President Bush and, this week, by his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, as justification for "regime change" in Iraq.

The covert program was carried out at a time when President Reagan's top aides, including Secretary of State George P. Shultz, Defense Secretary Frank C. Carlucci and Gen. Colin L. Powell, then the national security adviser, were publicly condemning Iraq for its use of poison gas, especially after Iraq attacked Kurds in Halabja in March 1988.

During the Iran-Iraq war, the United States decided it was imperative that Iran be thwarted, so it could not overrun the important oil-producing states in the Persian Gulf. It has long been known that the United States provided intelligence assistance to Iraq in the form of satellite photography to help the Iraqis understand how Iranian forces were deployed against them. But the full nature of the program, as described by former Defense Intelligence Agency officers, was not previously disclosed.

Secretary of State Powell, through a spokesman, said the officers' description of the program was "dead wrong," but declined to discuss it. His deputy, Richard L. Armitage, a senior defense official at the time, used an expletive relayed through a spokesman to indicate his denial that the United States acquiesced in the use of chemical weapons.

The Defense Intelligence Agency declined to comment, as did Lt. Gen. Leonard Perroots, retired, who supervised the program as the head of the agency. Mr. Carlucci said, "My understanding is that what was provided" to Iraq "was general order of battle information, not operational intelligence."

"I certainly have no knowledge of U.S. participation in preparing battle and strike packages," he said, "and doubt strongly that that occurred."

Later, he added, "I did agree that Iraq should not lose the war, but I certainly had no foreknowledge of their use of chemical weapons."

Though senior officials of the Reagan administration publicly condemned Iraq's employment of mustard gas, sarin, VX and other poisonous agents, the American military officers said President Reagan, Vice President George Bush and senior national security aides never withdrew their support for the highly classified program in which more than 60 officers of the Defense Intelligence Agency were secretly providing detailed information on Iranian deployments, tactical planning for battles, plans for airstrikes and bomb-damage assessments for Iraq.

Iraq shared its battle plans with the Americans, without admitting the use of chemical weapons, the military officers said. But Iraq's use of chemical weapons, already established at that point, became more evident in the war's final phase.

Saudi Arabia played a crucial role in pressing the Reagan administration to offer aid to Iraq out of concern that Iranian commanders were sending waves of young volunteers to overrun Iraqi forces. Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi ambassador to the United States, then and now, met with President Saddam Hussein of Iraq and then told officials of the Central Intelligence Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agency that Iraq's military command was ready to accept American aid.

In early 1988, after the Iraqi Army, with American planning assistance, retook the Fao Peninsula in an attack that reopened Iraq's access to the Persian Gulf, a defense intelligence officer, Lt. Col. Rick Francona, now retired, was sent to tour the battlefield with Iraqi officers, the American military officers said.

He reported that Iraq had used chemical weapons to cinch its victory, one former D.I.A. official said. Colonel Francona saw zones marked off for chemical contamination, and containers for the drug atropine scattered around, indicating that Iraqi soldiers had taken injections to protect themselves from the effects of gas that might blow back over their positions. (Colonel Francona could not be reached for comment.)

C.I.A. officials supported the program to assist Iraq, though they were not involved. Separately, the C.I.A. provided Iraq with satellite photography of the war front.

Col. Walter P. Lang, retired, the senior defense intelligence officer at the time, said he would not discuss classified information, but added that both D.I.A. and C.I.A. officials "were desperate to make sure that Iraq did not lose" to Iran.

"The use of gas on the battlefield by the Iraqis was not a matter of deep strategic concern," he said. What Mr. Reagan's aides were concerned about, he said, was that Iran not break through to the Fao Peninsula and spread the Islamic revolution to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

Colonel Lang asserted that the Defense Intelligence Agency "would have never accepted the use of chemical weapons against civilians, but the use against military objectives was seen as inevitable in the Iraqi struggle for survival." Senior Reagan administration officials did nothing to interfere with the continuation of the program, a former participant in the program said.

Iraq did turn its chemical weapons against the Kurdish population of northern Iraq, but the intelligence officers say they were not involved in planning any of the military operations in which those assaults occurred. They said the reason was that there were no major Iranian troop concentrations in the north and the major battles where Iraq's military command wanted assistance were on the southern war front.

The Pentagon's battle damage assessments confirmed that Iraqi military commanders had integrated chemical weapons throughout their arsenal and were adding them to strike plans that American advisers either prepared or suggested. Iran claimed that it suffered thousands of deaths from chemical weapons.

The American intelligence officers never encouraged or condoned Iraq's use of chemical weapons, but neither did they oppose it because they considered Iraq to be struggling for its survival, people involved at the time said in interviews.

Another former senior D.I.A. official who was an expert on the Iraqi military said the Reagan administration's treatment of the issue — publicly condemning Iraq's use of gas while privately acquiescing in its employment on the battlefield — was an example of the "Realpolitik" of American interests in the war.

The effort on behalf of Iraq "was heavily compartmented," a former D.I.A. official said, using the military jargon for restricting secrets to those who need to know them.

"Having gone through the 440 days of the hostage crisis in Iran," he said, "the period when we were the Great Satan, if Iraq had gone down it would have had a catastrophic effect on Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, and the whole region might have gone down. That was the backdrop of the policy."

One officer said, "They had gotten better and better" and after a while chemical weapons "were integrated into their fire plan for any large operation, and it became more and more obvious."

A number of D.I.A. officers who took part in aiding Iraq more than a decade ago when its military was actively using chemical weapons, now say they believe that the United States should overthrow Mr. Hussein at some point. But at the time, they say, they all believed that their covert assistance to Mr. Hussein's military in the mid-1980's was a crucial factor in Iraq's victory in the war and the containment of a far more dangerous threat from Iran.

The Pentagon "wasn't so horrified by Iraq's use of gas," said one veteran of the program. "It was just another way of killing people — whether with a bullet or phosgene, it didn't make any difference," he said.

Former Secretary of State Shultz and Vice President Bush tried to stanch the flow of chemical precursors to Iraq and spoke out against Iraq's use of chemical arms, but Mr. Shultz, in his memoir, also alluded to the struggle in the administration.

"I was stunned to read an intelligence analysis being circulated within the administration that `we have demolished a budding relationship (with Iraq) by taking a tough position in opposition to chemical weapons,' " he wrote.

Mr. Shultz also wrote that he quarreled with William J. Casey, then the director of central intelligence, over whether the United States should press for a new chemical weapons ban at the Geneva Disarmament Conference. Mr. Shultz declined further comment.


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What in the world does this have to do with the price of eggs? The Times has gone off the deep end.

Why can't they just come out in plain English and say "we don't like war and we don't like Republicans?" This is simply Sunday morning talk show propaganda.

I remember this time period well......The Wall St Journal was running editorials called "Yellow Rain" and the NY Times was in denial. They need to go back and read their own editorials.

1 posted on 08/18/2002 12:52:51 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
What is with these people?

Everyone knows we sided with Iraq due to Iran. How could they know Saddam was going to use gas agaist the kurds. This is absolutely beyong the pale.

2 posted on 08/18/2002 12:55:48 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
beyong=beyond,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BTW I'll be these are the same un-named military souces they have been using for the rest of their bull sh*t!

Let's see if we can find out the names of these dingbats and put out some good info about their motivations.

3 posted on 08/18/2002 1:00:23 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
souces=sources......( can't seem to get my (r)key to connect with my finger. Must be a sleep deprivation problem)
4 posted on 08/18/2002 1:02:27 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
This belongs on the editorial page.
5 posted on 08/18/2002 1:03:50 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
Those officers, most of whom agreed to speak on the condition that they not be identified

How about the identity of one? I guess if an editor at the Times dresses up as an officer, you can call him an officer.

Yep, Saddam's favorite newspaper, The New York Slime, the National sEdition.

Hey New York. How much longer are you going to support a newspaper that tries to protect the type of people that killed 3,000 of your friends and neighbors?

6 posted on 08/18/2002 1:05:32 AM PDT by Russell Scott
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To: The Raven
I believe this Tyler fellow is the same one who broke the so-called major story about the Bush Admin. splitting up on the Iraq policy.

He has been a thorn in the admin side for a while.

7 posted on 08/18/2002 1:10:51 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: The Raven
A number of D.I.A. officers who took part in aiding Iraq more than a decade ago when its military was actively using chemical weapons, now say they believe that the United States should overthrow Mr. Hussein at some point. But at the time, they say, they all believed that their covert assistance to Mr. Hussein's military in the mid-1980's was a crucial factor in Iraq's victory in the war and the containment of a far more dangerous threat from Iran.

Here is the critical point. We picked the less bad side in a conflict that needed to end with Iran not spreading the Islamic revolution.

The Times' decision to run this as a news story, shows the Liberal, hate-America-first bias at the Times. But what did we expect?

8 posted on 08/18/2002 1:20:58 AM PDT by SubMareener
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To: The Raven
The US actually sold Iraq the chemical precursors for Iraq's chemical weapons, which may ironically be used against America's own soldiers.
9 posted on 08/18/2002 3:38:13 AM PDT by faulkner
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the flow of chemical precursors to Iraq

Who sold Saddam these chemical precursors? The USA.

10 posted on 08/18/2002 3:41:14 AM PDT by faulkner
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To: The Raven
News flash: FDR supported Stalin against Hitler.

News flash: Clinton called Red China our 'strategic partner' and gave Red China our top nuclear missile technology in exchange for campaign cash, along with unprecedented foreign access to our military secrets and tours of our war rehearsals, even how our planes handle dog fights.

News flash: Jimmy Carter and Clinton both supported North Korea's 'peaceful' nuclear program, even though it was reported at the time that North Korea was developing ICBMs.

News flash: Truman was the greatest proliferator of atom bomb technology the world has ever seen, in the naive quest to help the world build atomic power plants.

News flash: It's boring as sin to read about what 'evil things' the GOP has done, but quite interesting to read about what the DNC has done. And that is why conservative media is gaining ground.

Followup on Reagan's Support of Iraq: Reagan, like any skilled diplomat with any brains, pitted one enemy against the other. And conservatives should be proud of him. I was on the wrong side back then. I didn't like Reagan at the time. But I think the world of him now. Freegards....

11 posted on 08/18/2002 3:43:00 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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How could they know Saddam was going to use gas agaist the kurds.

It doesn't even matter. FDR did the same thing with Stalin. Stalin was a known butcher at the time FDR helped him. And FDR went too far, did he not? The USSR, thanks to US help, conquered and exploited almost all of Eastern Europe. It was a miracle that the USSR didn't conquer the Serbs as well.

Here's another thing to consider. Clinton personally led a civilian murdering war against the Serbs. He bombed bridges during rush hour, bombed a TV station [some free speech advocate, huh?]. And he bombed other civilian targets as well, deliberately. What difference does it make whether you use nerve gas or a bomb? Killing is killing. Our military was used in an evil way in Kosovo, based on a slanderous hoax about a 'mass grave' in Kosovo, and the slander of 'ethnic cleansing'.

12 posted on 08/18/2002 3:50:40 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: The Raven
*Grin* I love to see these airheads in panic mode. I find it reassuring. :)
13 posted on 08/18/2002 4:09:43 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: faulkner
>>Who sold Saddam these chemical precursors?

What's your point?

14 posted on 08/18/2002 4:54:15 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
>>Reagan, like any skilled diplomat with any brains, pitted one enemy against the other.

I remember somebody asked a Reagan official who was going to lose the Iran/Iraq war and he said "Who cares"

15 posted on 08/18/2002 4:56:11 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: wirestripper
This is getting more coverage tha it desrves.....must be a pre-election DNC stategy.
16 posted on 08/18/2002 5:00:38 AM PDT by The Raven
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>>How about the identity of one?

There are libs in State and the military. There are libs everywhere for that matter.

17 posted on 08/18/2002 5:24:10 AM PDT by The Raven
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I think its worse than that.Its another part of the "leave Iraq alone" propaganda machine thats in full bloom now,including some Republicans and conservatives.While I would like to think at least those folks have legitimate concerns,I think something else is going on and I think Saudi Arabia is at the root of it.If we start with Iraq theres a chance the Saudi princedom could be in line there somewhere and there are probably some American connections there that the naysayers would prefer to continue as is and not be revealed.Just an opinion.
18 posted on 08/18/2002 5:33:19 AM PDT by John W
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To: The Raven
Can I ask someone with knowledge on the issue-why is the press allowed to get away with slanderous material? Why are they allow to print misleading, untruthful, vindictive, unnamed sources-that turns out to be untrue, and get away with it? There has to be some accountability and I think you have to file suits and take them to account. The NY Times is a particular hit piece towards Bush. They are anti-American "America is so bad" and push these kind of pieces and I'm sick of them just keep on running their hit pieces and nothing happens. Oh, yeah, "they're a respectable paper"*sarcasm*. I'd have them officially labeled for what they are and have them repeatedly labeled the liberal rag they are and declare their lies in public constantly. They need to be called liars for what they are.
19 posted on 08/18/2002 7:08:19 AM PDT by bushfamfan
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Good read on this is Ann COulter's Slander
20 posted on 08/18/2002 7:09:40 AM PDT by The Raven
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