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Tapes showing gassing of dogs shed new light on al-Qaeda
Agence France Presse | 19 August 2002

Posted on 08/18/2002 7:38:56 PM PDT by Wallaby

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Tapes showing gassing of dogs shed new light on al-Qaeda

Agence France Presse
International News
August 19, 2002 Monday 9:13 PM Eastern Time

HONG KONG, Aug 19

A series of videotapes shed new light on the inner workings of al-Qaeda, including chemical gas experiments on dogs and terrorist training tactics, CNN said Monday.

The archive of 64 tapes, which span more than a decade, also show previously unseen images of Osama bin Laden and his top aides.


"This is not the library of someone else ... This is their history, the record room of Osama bin Laden."
Virtually all the tapes, recovered from inside Afghanistan, pre-date last year's September 11 attacks, although one shows segments from televised news reports of the attacks on New York and Washington, CNN said. The broadcaster said it had shown the tapes to several experts who had told them the footage portrayed al-Qaeda operatives training in the field as they practiced assassinations, kidnappings and urban combat.

Rohan Gunaratna, an al-Qaeda expert who has addressed the US Congress, the United Nations and the Australian parliament on the terror group, said he believed the tapes were intended only for al-Qaeda eyes.

"The collection has al-Qaeda videos taken by al-Qaeda of events," Gunaratna said on CNN's website.

"Whenever Osama bin Laden met with foreign journalists, he always had his own cameraman. And it is those tapes that are there, because that itself shows that this is the al-Qaeda library.

"This is not the library of someone else ... This is their history, the record room of Osama bin Laden."

CNN correspondent Nic Robertson said he obtained the tapes from a source in Afghanistan, following a 17-hour drive from Kabul to a remote part of the war-torn country.

According to the source, the tapes had been found in an Afghan house where bin Laden had stayed.

Some of the tapes are video training manuals with one showing how to make purified TNT from easy-to-get materials.

One scene shows bin Laden with his security detail firing shots into the air as they get set to announce their new jihad against Americans in 1998, CNN said.

Another shows the testing of a poison gas on three dogs.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; osamabinladen
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1 posted on 08/18/2002 7:38:56 PM PDT by Wallaby
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To: Wallaby
Another shows the testing of a poison gas on three dogs.

This begs the questions:

1. What kind of gas was it?

2. Where did he get it?

2 posted on 08/18/2002 7:41:07 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Wallaby
I take this personally.
3 posted on 08/18/2002 7:41:46 PM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: Wallaby
There will be silence from the PETA crowd and the Euro lefties.

God forbid the Taliban were removed from power.

4 posted on 08/18/2002 7:47:42 PM PDT by zarf
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To: 4Freedom
One scene shows bin Laden with his security detail firing shots into the air as they get set to announce their new jihad against Americans in 1998, CNN said. Another shows the testing of a poison gas on three dogs.

Your last post to me said that al Qaeda had been warning of attacks for only a year?

5 posted on 08/18/2002 7:49:54 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: PoorMuttly
Islamofascists call us dogs routinely.
Iraq Urges Saudis To Strike US Interests
Xinhua General Overseas News Service
FEBRUARY 9, 1991, SATURDAY
London--

Iraq has called on the Saudi people to strike at U.S. interests in the Kingdom, Iraqi radio said in an address to the Saudi people late Friday. 'How long will you keep silent while the dogs of infidelity are gnawing at your flesh?' the radio address, monitored by the BBC, said. The address said that now is the time 'for revolution and Jihad (holy war). Therefore, revolt and struggle, strike U.S. interests, wherever they may be.' the Iraqi radio urged Saudis to 'kill those who betrayed you and desecrated the holy shrines of the Arabs and Moslems. Rise up for the sake of your dignity.'

6 posted on 08/18/2002 7:51:40 PM PDT by Wallaby
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To: Wallaby

(the the binladen poison gas tape)
7 posted on 08/18/2002 7:53:49 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: jwalsh07
This begs the questions:

No it doesn't.

"Begging the question" is a logical fallacy that is often mistaken for what you think it means.

Begging the question is the fallacy of petitio principii, which is essentially the fallacy of circular reasoning.

8 posted on 08/18/2002 8:01:38 PM PDT by krb
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To: PoorMuttly
I take this personally

LOL!!! i guess it could have been worse.

you could have been called an infideau.

9 posted on 08/18/2002 8:02:39 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: krb
:-} Begging your pardon but I am slightly more interested in the answers to my questions than your reply. Could you tell me whether it was VX, GB or GD?
10 posted on 08/18/2002 8:08:44 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Could be Chlorine, Mustard gas, hydrigran Cyanide, etc, etc.

Don't be to quick to assume they need to be very high tech to kill unsuspecting Americans.

(Wonder what Boston would think if Amherst (sp?) was the target?)
11 posted on 08/18/2002 8:40:15 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Don't be to quick to assume they need to be very high tech to kill unsuspecting Americans.

Oh, I'm not believe me.

My guess, if its low tech, is hydrogen Cyanide. After all, it works on rats, why not dogs and humans?

12 posted on 08/18/2002 8:56:32 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: PoorMuttly
Go amphibian. I'm glad I did. It's easier to be green.;^)
13 posted on 08/18/2002 9:02:30 PM PDT by Kermit
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To: Wallaby
THIS is the best CNN can do, with all their expertise and agenda driven agents over there?

They show animals being gassed or whatever, not people.

This is an animal rights connection with CNN vomitus editors, pure and simple, since the dogs are more important than the women and children who have been used as guinea pigs or have been slowly dying from the exposure to the gasses...
14 posted on 08/18/2002 9:12:20 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: jwalsh07
I am slightly more interested in the answers to my questions than your reply

Sorry...I can't help you...it's just my life's purpose to try and get people to stop misusing the "begging the question" moniker.

It may seem trivial, but you'd be surprised how many idiots on the left spout circular logic. My favorite is "If you can't trust me with a choice, how can you trust me with a child". (hint...to understand why that's begging the question, note you have to equate child and choice before that statement seems to resonate with truthfulness). Another one that I'll leave as an exercise for the reader is to explain why "Judge not, lest ye be judged" doesn't mean simply that one should not judge other people.

15 posted on 08/18/2002 9:22:33 PM PDT by krb
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To: Wallaby
The Ultimate Cruelty

16 posted on 08/18/2002 9:23:33 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: krb
Well, next time I use it you can assume that I'm using it literally and not as a logical fallacy. Then, we'll both be happy campers.
17 posted on 08/18/2002 9:35:36 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: All
Another reason why Al-Qaeda needs to be vanquished. I am a dog owner and I felt the need to comment here.

After we vanquish Al-Qaeda someone told me about another radical Islamic extremist group:

http://www.al-fatiha.net/

Don't ask where he found this, but these could be the next bad thing to Al-Qaeda.
18 posted on 08/18/2002 9:38:48 PM PDT by CrazedConservativeLiberalMan
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To: jwalsh07
Well, next time I use it you can assume that I'm using it literally and not as a logical fallacy.

Grrrrr....the point is don't use it. It doesn't mean what you think it means. Freepers can do better :-)

19 posted on 08/18/2002 9:40:58 PM PDT by krb
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To: krb
Grrrrr....the point is don't use it.

OK, now you've done it. I'll be using it at every opportunity.

20 posted on 08/18/2002 9:43:31 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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