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Islam’s Voice of Hatred, War & Insanity
washingtondispatch ^ | 8/21/2002 | Marc J. Rauch

Posted on 08/21/2002 12:50:00 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

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To: Salman
Why did Mohammed retain the local pagan worship of the black meteorite moon-god rock at the Ka'aba in Mecca?

Do Muslims consider that black rock which pagans considered part of the moon and worshipped as the moon-god to now represent Mohammed's Allah?

How did the Ka'aba turn from a pagan moon-god to something holy to Muslims?

41 posted on 08/23/2002 7:34:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Islam, the religion, teaches hostility to non-Moslem, that is not much different from any other religion teaching of superiority of their way of thinking or believing. The difference are
1) most other religions started to deemphasize the hate to others, and Islam failed to do so, and

2)most religions do not have the luxury of state support with billions of dollars budgeted to teach hate as well as networking of militants to force that religion down the throat of others. Now these two fundamental reasons are why the Islamists became a world-wide terror to be contended with.

If the US fails to recognize that, and starts to waste time and effort on changing dictatorship in Iraq, then we have people in charge who fail to understand the big picture. First, we must recognize that all the Moslem fanatic nations are authoritarian dictatorship of one sort or another. For Example Mr. Mubarak of Egypt can swear all day that he has a democracy, but he has been in office for more than 20 years, and keep getting 99% of the votes during the charade game they call election. Therefore, all these dictators who are able to govern with an iron fist, and forbid criticism of their government should also be able to FORBID CRITISISM OF THE US, AND ISRAEL! Second, We should disregard the concept of “interfering in internal affairs of other nations”, if the internal affairs of these nations is to incite hate against us.

To conclude, the US was given a tremendous sympathy, and sense of support from most of the world after 9/11. We needed that to help chase the flow of funds that supports the terrorist Islamic cells. Less than a year later, with the cells still operating in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the Philippine, as well as the marathon fundraising in Saudi Arabia, we are disregarding our main mission, and focusing on “changing the government of Iraq”. The world that was 100% behind us in combating the terrorists is now 100% against us in invading Iraq! How inept can you get in wasting worldwide goodwill into a worldwide hate?

Again, the US should focus on Islamic terrorist groups and the venomous hate from the Moslem clerics. We must dictate to these dictators: “You employ these clerics, you are responsible for their hate preaching”--- if that continue, we will make you pay! JUST AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!


42 posted on 08/23/2002 7:36:19 AM PDT by philosofy123
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1) most other religions started to deemphasize the hate to others, and Islam failed to do so, and

Show me in the NT where Christians are taught hatred or violence by Jesus Christ. The Koran and its prophet-murderrer, Mohammed, are models of violence and hatred. See the difference?

43 posted on 08/23/2002 8:57:52 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Salman
The word Allah does mean god, but it is not the same God as the God of the Bible. Allah is not Yahweh, that is for sure.
44 posted on 08/23/2002 9:00:30 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Travis McGee
Why did Mohammed retain the local pagan worship of the black meteorite moon-god rock at the Ka'aba in Mecca?

I have no idea. Presumbly because he liked it.

I am not trying to make the point that Islam is an acceptable variant of monotheism, only that "Allah" is a word meaning "God" and used as such by Arab Christians.

So Arab pagans called their top god "God"? What does that prove? If Muhammad spoke English he'd have spoken of "God" not "Allah".

The devil loves to be called "God". That doesn't make it illegitimate to call God "God". Capisce?

45 posted on 08/23/2002 9:07:34 AM PDT by Salman
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To: exmarine
I don't have to show you that Jesus teaches hate, because he did not, and Mohamed did. However, that was not my point; my point was relating to the pride of affiliation that is common in all groups or religions. If you don't know that Catholics think that they are better than Baptists and visa a versa, then my philosophical point is mute. Again, you need to read my posting carefully. Here it is:

Islam, the religion, teaches hostility to non-Moslem, that is not much different from any other religion teaching of superiority of their way of thinking or believing. The difference are 1) most other religions started to deemphasize the hate to others, and Islam failed to do so, and 2)most religions do not have the luxury of state support with billions of dollars budgeted to teach hate as well as networking of militants to force that religion down the throat of others. Now these two fundamental reasons are why the Islamists became a world-wide terror to be contended with. If the US fails to recognize that, and starts to waste time and effort on changing dictatorship in Iraq, then we have people in charge who fail to understand the big picture. First, we must recognize that all the Moslem fanatic nations are authoritarian dictatorship of one sort or another. For Example Mr. Mubarak of Egypt can swear all day that he has a democracy, but he has been in office for more than 20 years, and keep getting 99% of the votes during the charade game they call election. Therefore, all these dictators who are able to govern with an iron fist, and forbid criticism of their government should also be able to FORBID CRITISISM OF THE US, AND ISRAEL! Second, We should disregard the concept of “interfering in internal affairs of other nations”, if the internal affairs of these nations is to incite hate against us. To conclude, the US was given a tremendous sympathy, and sense of support from most of the world after 9/11. We needed that to help chase the flow of funds that supports the terrorist Islamic cells. Less than a year later, with the cells still operating in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the Philippine, as well as the marathon fundraising in Saudi Arabia, we are disregarding our main mission, and focusing on “changing the government of Iraq”. The world that was 100% behind us in combating the terrorists is now 100% against us in invading Iraq! How inept can you get in wasting worldwide goodwill into a worldwide hate? Again, the US should focus on Islamic terrorist groups and the venomous hate from the Moslem clerics. We must dictate to these dictators: “You employ these clerics, you are responsible for their hate preaching”--- if that continue, we will make you pay! JUST AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!

46 posted on 08/23/2002 10:16:08 AM PDT by philosofy123
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