Iraq: You ain't seen nothin' yet(for doubters)

objective american ^ | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 | E.G. Ross

[Samwise]

[Samwise]

[Samwise]

Sorry for the double post. It wasn't there, then it was--twice.

[operation clinton cleanup]

Third, the old canard about how going to war in the Middle East might destabilize the region was proven untrue in both Desert Storm and the recent war against the Afghan Taliban theocracy. If anything, the Middle East has grown more stable as a result of such actions.

Exactly! In your face Scowcroft!

[jslade]

(or the surprise may be finding out that it is well underway)

From my sources (ex USAF), it is already under way.

[Kaslin]

Great Article BTTT

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

Thank you for the ping.

[Mr. K]

And Reagan taught the world a valuable lesson with Libya we seem to have forgotten. QaDaffy was sponsoring terrorists and Reagan dropped a few bombs meant for his head and just BARELY missed him.. We have barely heard a peep out of him since.

[freeforall]

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[knighthawk]

It's always easier for a county [to put off war decisions]. Think of the prelude to World War II, think of all the countries that said, 'Well, we don't have enough evidence.' I mean, Mein Kampf had been written; Hitler had indicated what he intended to do." —Donald Rumsfeld

Middle East list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

[facedown]

Bump

[logician2u]

We have barely heard a peep out of him since.

Tell that to the families of the folks who died on Pan Am flt 103.

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

Seen the Turkish reports of the airbase grab at Barani yet? Very hush-hush and muted, the reaction has been.

[knighthawk]

No, I haven't. What happened there?

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

This was reported over 2 weeks ago, with this followup today. Very interesting. Typical 'Nothing to see here, move on' response indicates otherwise.

[Travis McGee]

"One must also pause to think what it must have been like to be President Roosevelt back in 1940 and 1941. Sitting in the Oval Office, Roosevelt is reading Japanese [Magic] decrypts on a regular basis. They clearly prove- in the same fashion that wiretaps can prove- the aggression Japan is planning in Southeast Asia and the Pacific. They also show the linkage between Berlin and Tokyo, revealing that if Japan goes to war against America, Hitler will also declare war on America.

"Also reading the same material are the Secretary of State, Cordell Hull; the Secretary of War, Henry L. Stimson; the Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Stark (plus his chief of intelligence) and the Chief of Staff of the Army, General George C. Marshall (and his chief of intelligence). Of these men Roosevelt is the only elected official. And he is confronted by an isolationist Congress that steadfastly refuses to listen to any arguement the President might make that America must prepare for war.

"What frustrations Roosevelt must have felt!

"To know what the enemy is doing, but to be unable to tell his opponents in Congress and convince them them of the rightness of his position. Nor can Roosevelt discuss the situation with his supporters and friends. Magic is so secret, so precious, that absolute silence is the order of the day. This element of real life- knowing, but not being able to to do anything about it- is ignored in all the autobiographies, the biographies and the history books."

~~~Marching Orders, the Untold Story of World War Two, Bruce Lee, page 24.

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Among many other victories, "Magic" brought us Midway, the turning point of the war in the Pacific. Magic and Ultra are estimated to have shortened WW2 by 2 years, before the time that Germany and Japan could develop atomic weapons. Roosevelt could not squander this secret in convincing Congress of the Japanese danger in 1940.

Is a similar secret about Iraq being kept by Bush today for the same reasons?

[freeforall]

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[freeforall]

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