SCANA modifies Confederate flag policy;Maurice Offers 'Free Lunch' to SCANA Employees

WLTX ^ | 8/21/02 | WLTX

[PJeffQ]

SCANA officials are clarifying their position on the Confederate flag, even as Maurice Bessinger fires another volley against the company's policies.

A press released issued by SCANA Wednesday says the company has never banned the Confederate flag, or issued a ruling telling employees not to eat at certain restaurants.

CEO Bill Timmerman says the company's Code of Conduct tries to prevent divisive symbols which may harass other employees. Timmerman says as long as it's meant as heritage it would be okay for an employee to display a Confederate emblem while at work.

He also says employees can eat at Maurice Bessinger restaurants--just not in a company vehicle. He says it's in response to Bessinger's pro-slavery views.

In response, Bessinger released a press release Wednesday saying all SCE&G employees, the energy company that's a subsidiary of SCANA, could eat for free at his stores if they showed up in a company vehicle. If they bring their company identification, they can eat at half price.

[Sparticle]

And I could mention the corrupting influence of the slaveowning colonies on British Politics in the late-18th, early 19th Century, including the trade laws created to subsidize them, that had the effect of losing the North American colonies.

[ravinson]

So Lincoln could free the slaves in areas he had no de facto control over? but not in areas he controlled? Sounds like a convenient way not to have many of his officers go home...

The Emancipation Proclamation freed slaves as the Union Army liberated areas previously under Confederate control. The slaves in many areas not covered by the EP were already physically freed when the Confederate slaveholders abandoned their plantations and moved south.

Most members of the Union Army strongly supported Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation and voted for him in huge numbers in 1864 to prove it. They were also very appreciative of the enemy intelligence information supplied by the liberated negros.

[PJeffQ]

The election in 1864 wasnt a referendum on the EP...

and did you cut and paste that section from somewhere else? or do you always use the word negros or are you usually more PC? (negroes is the correct spelling)...

[Sparticle]

I think you have trouble believing that slavery was real. It was destructive: physically, economically and psychologically; and to everyone faced with it.

[PJeffQ]

I know it was real...

and I know that liberals who are moral relativists on every other issue under the sun always point out the wrongness of slavery universally (where are they on the other issues they insist on considering the context)?

You didn't answer whether "negros" is a term you use in conversation... or whether you lifted that paragraph from an older document on the web?

[Non-Sequitur]

The election in 1864 wasnt a referendum on the EP...

No, by that time it was a referendum, in part, on the 13th Amendment. The amendment had been passed out of the Senate and had passed the House, but not by enough votes to be sent to the states. Lincoln ensured that the 13th Amendment was added to the Republican platform of 1864, ran in part on his support for it, and helped get enough Republican congressment elected in November to ensure that the amendment passed out of the House in January 1865.

[Sparticle]

I don't doubt that small slaveowning families MAY have been "kinder and gentler" just as some Roman slaves (in the days when household needs were manufactured right at home) were far better off than many of their peasant neighbors. But the death rates on the sugar colonies are horrifying to anyone, and were certainly not a result of daily face-to-face interactions with slaves. Surely the larger the plantation, the greater the degradation.

[PJeffQ]

You apparently are putting words in my mouth... or attributing thoughts to me that I have not had...

[hoosierham]

The New England ship owners made a good bit of money transporting slaves ; slaves who were captured and sold by their fellow Africans. It seems that black Africans (especially Christians)are still being enslaved today (by blacks practicing Mohammedism , mostly).

Perhaps Farrakhan and his fellow travelers should cast their efforts eastward ?

[Sparticle]

The Reconstruction era was clearly a time when the winds prevailed for black empowerment in the South. It was only when Republican politics became so corrupt that "bloody-shirt" politics lost its moral appeal, and the sincerity of many (certainly not all) "converted" rebels gained currency, that Northerners forgot about blacks in the South.

[Sparticle]

Not sure about the reference to Muslims enslaving Christians, but New England shipowners certainly "aided and abetted" the slave trade -- DESPITE their shame in it.

[Sparticle]

Then, you do NOT support the notion that slavery was somehow "good for the negro."

[PJeffQ]

I don't support slavery.

I find it hypocritical for the PC crowd that is on the bandwagon of moral relativism and "consider the context" to single out slavery as one case to be absolutist...

[ravinson]

The election in 1864 wasnt a referendum on the EP...

Perhaps not entirely, but it certainly was a referendum on the way Lincoln had been managing the war, and the EP was viciously attacked by the Democrats.

and did you cut and paste that section from somewhere else? or do you always use the word negros or are you usually more PC? (negroes is the correct spelling)...

Sorry for the typo, but my comments are my own, and I use the word "negro" because that's what blacks were called in the 1860's.

[4CJ]

How goes the battle?

We're winning. The people are waking up.

[PJeffQ]

Our conversation is in 2002...
not 1860... do you not see the irony in your usage of the term negro in this argument?

[ravinson]

Our conversation is in 2002... not 1860... do you not see the irony in your usage of the term negro in this argument?

No.

[CWRWinger]

Shuckmaster, have you seen this one yet?

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RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT
DISPLAY OF BATTLE FLAGS OF THE CONFEDERACY
119TH NATIONAL ENCAMPMENT OF THE
SONS OF UNION VETERANS OF THE CIVIL WAR
LANSING, MICHIGAN AUGUST 19, 2000

A resolution in support of the display of the Confederate Battle Flag.

WHEREAS, we, the members of the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, condemn the use of the confederate battle flag, as well as the flag of the United States, by any and all hate groups; and

WHEREAS, we, the members of the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, support the flying of the Confederate battle flag as a historical piece of this nation's history; and

WHEREAS, we, the members of the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, oppose the removal of any Confederate monuments or markers to those gallant soldiers in the former Confederate States, and strongly oppose the removal of ANY reminders of this nation's bloodiest war on the grounds of it being "politically correct;" and

WHEREAS, we, as the descendants of Union soldiers and sailors who as members of the Grand Army of the Republic met in joint reunions with the Confederate veterans under both flags in those bonds of Fraternal Friendship, pledge our support and admiration for those gallant soldiers and of their respective flags;

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that we, the members of the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War in 119th Annual National Encampment, hereby adopt this resolution.

Dated in Lansing, Michigan,
on this nineteenth day of August,
in the year of our Lord Two thousand.

[PJeffQ]

SC Bump

[Scholastic]

Maurice is the man! GO MAURICE!!!!!!