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"OSHA says the amount of toxins found in shs seldom if ever reach the necessary level to be considered dangerous."

Shouldn't you be attacking OSHA now too? And look again what you wrote: "...seldom if ever reach the necessary level to be considered dangerous" - that means it is within the realm of possibility. I would be interested in exactly what their reports say. And if you are ceding that OSHA has some credibility - then you are buying that shs is bad - even if it is just "seldom if ever". So please make some sense and show consistency. I say that it is possible that shs is harmful and do not want to be exposed to it. After mentioning the OSHA report you then refuse to acknowledge the possibility that shs is harmful. ?

"You have been bamboozled, dude, by a well-funded, very slick bunch of snake oil pitchmen and you've swallowed it whole."

Ah - far more appropriate in describing you suckers who started smoking and keep smoking because the billions spent on advertising by Big Tobacco:
"The industry spent $9.5 billion on advertising and promotions in 2000, the last year for which such figures were available. The total was 16 percent greater than the previous year." - http://www.med.sc.edu:1081/tobaccoadchanges.htm

who are the well-funded slick bunch that are anti-smoking? And I am sure that their ad budget is a fraction of $9.5 billion? And thanks to the settlement, much of their $$$ now comes from cig sales.

And thanks to the settlement, much of their $$$ now comes from cig sales.

See how little you really do know? The MSA or Tobacco Settlement Money is paid 100% by the smokers who pay taxes on cigarettes. Big Tobacco does not pay one penny. The Government is paying not one penny. It all comes from the taxes that are imposed on the smokers.

And thanks to the settlement, much of their $$$ now comes from cig sales.

Thanks to the extortion, er I mean settlement, yes the money that demonizes smokers is being paid for 100% by smokers, as is much of the money being spent to kick smokers out of the PRIVATE premises of business owners who wish to cater to smokers.

But is any of it being used for it's intended purpose of helping smokers? Not where I live.

Regardless of what channel, there is at least one if not more ads an hour from the state designed to humiliate smokers into quitting and it provides a HELPLINE phone number to call.

At the other end of the helpline they tell you how proud they are you want to quit and then direct you to for-profit quitsmoking programs.

Don't preach about tobacco company advertising - they are legal businesses who are continually strips of their abilities to advertise by the demonizers who ar using the smokers money to demonize the tobacco companies through means unavailable to the companies.

I despise the tobacco companies as much as the next guy, but I more despise meddling nanny statists who have decided they know what is best for private citizens and private businesses.