[IncPen]

A date base?

Oh, my...

[jjm2111]

According to this guy's logic, a chickenhawk is anyone who has not been awarded a CMOH but still insists that the country to defend itself.

[Brett66]

Ok let's apply this standard across the board to everyone. If you're not a doctor, you can't comment on healthcare legislation. If you're not a teacher you can't comment on education. If you're not an astronaut you can't comment about NASA. If your ...... etc. etc. etc.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

After I make a mess like this, I flush it.

[dts32041]

Some people have to much time on their hands and they should get over it.

Of course, I don't see FDR listed or that noted captain of the No Go's Truman or maybe McNamara should be listed.

[Restorer]

There is a far less savory connotation of the word chickenhawk. In gay parlance it refers to a male homosexual who prefers inexperienced pubescent partners.

A lot of Catholic priests have lately been found to be devout chickenhawks.

[NMC EXP]

When the topic of clintons draft dodging came up, one of his sycophants (may even have been hillary) was quoted as saying "America's best and brightest did not go to Viet Nam."

I believe that quote was a topic of discussion here at FR.

Whats sauce for the goose......

Regards

J.R.

[ValerieUSA]

That's NOT what "chickenhawk" means.

A chickenhawk "datebase" would be a school for troubled boys where old men can visit and pick them up....

[WFTR]

These idiots seem to have omitted President John Adams who never served in uniform but still had the nerve to advocate independence from Great Britain. I haven't studied James Madison's life in any detail, but I'm not aware that he ever served in uniform. I've heard that Thomas Jefferson had a rank in the Virginia militia, but I've never heard of him actually fighting. Amazingly, he still wrote the Declaration of Independence. Of course, I'm not surprised that liberals would enjoy calling our Founding Fathers names, liberals are the type who would have urged furher subservience to Great Britain.

The fact is that we haven't had a prolonged war for close to thirty years. I'm 38, and when I was service age, no one promoted the military as a duty. I spoke to a National Guard recruiter at a campus job fair once, and all he talked about was scholarship money. I already had a co-op job that was allowing me to earn enough to finish college. If the military was just another career opportunity, I figured that I'd leave it for those who had greater needs than I did.

The other problem that these liberals have is that Republican uses of power for the past thirty years have been short and successful. They can't stand the fact that when Republicans have advocated the use of power and used it without liberal interference, America has won quickly and decisively. These people hate to see a strong America, and they are just seeking a way to diminish the value of our victories. They also want to distract people from the fact that liberals cannot be trusted to keep Americans safe. If most people really think about it, they'd want conservatives in charge during dangerous times. Whether those conservatives have served or not, conservatives understand protecting Americans against foreign enemies. In order to stay in power, the liberals must make people forget this fact.

WFTR
Bill

I might say more, but I have a feeling that this thread will be pulled soon.

[jackbill]

Seems to me that the guy who passed this through his bowels needs to seek professional help. And soon.

[laconic]

The usual lies about Ronald Reagan. President Reagan served in the Army Reserves in the early 1930s when virtually no one else wanted to and no one had to and he had 20/400 eyesight. During WW2, he was an officer in an Army film unit, which fit his background and which was about all he could do with his eyesight. "President" Clinton and Robert McNamara's son Craig aren't on your list, are they?

[PsyOp]

I didn't notice Barney Franks name anywhere. As I recall his chicken coop was full of Congressional pages.

[A.J.Armitage]

The fact that they's almost all Republicans is ... well, curious, don't you think?

Not really. The authors of the list more or less admit that actual hawkishness has nothing whatsoever to do with placement.

Patrick Buchanan: A complicated case. He remains listed because our judges believe his general attachment to hyper-conservatism tends to negate his isolationist variety of pacifism.

So he's not a hawk, but you'll call him a chickenhawk anyway just because you don't like his politics. Nice. You're dishonest, but you're honest about being dishonest.

Bill Clinton: He may have launched a few cruise missiles to distract us from a dalliance with a girl half his age, but our judges believe he wasn't bellicose enough to make the cut. Your mileage may vary.

But you like his politics, so you'll ignore the fact that he not only called for but ordered military action for what even you admit were sleazy reasons.

Since you're dishonest in handling that aspect, why trust anything on the list?

[Consort]

    Democrats and Republicans whole heartedly support our military in time of war, but as soon as the fighting stops almost every Democrat, including those that wore the uniform, turn their backs on our service men and women. They take away needed funding and spend it on wasteful and addictive social programs and use our military as a laboratory for social engineering.
    The Republicans, on the other hand, whether or not they wore the uniform, fully support our service men in war time and in peace time. They support sufficient funding for material and equipment replenishment, for modernization, for training, etc.

[Norwell]

Interesting List. First of all, they left out New Hampshirites Rubens and the Sununus (both of them).

As for Reagan, he cheated to get into the military despite being legally blind without his glasses.

It is disheartening when you consider the number if Republicans on your list. On the other hand, when you examine the number of post 1973 (draft era) veterans, they are virtually all Republicans (Buyer, Kirk--drip that he is--, Lindsey Grahm, etc.. There are probably some Democrats, though there are not many.

Personally, I find the dearth of liberals in the service one of the reasons to remain in uniform.

[M Kehoe]

George W. Bush: Yeah, right. He was in uniform.
Ronald Reagan: A complicated case.

IMHO, ANYONE who goes through basic and wears the uniform is not a chickenhawk. Even a REMF like algore.

5.56mm