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Multiculturalism and the Fall of Western Civilization
The Clash of Civilizations | 2002 | Samuel P. Huntington

Posted on 08/25/2002 3:24:49 PM PDT by Noumenon

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To: Noumenon
Great post from you and article by Huntington.
61 posted on 08/29/2002 6:00:09 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Thanks again - People really, really need to get a handle on this.
The clash between the multiculturalists and the defenders of Western civilization and the American Creed is, in James Kurth's phrase, "the real clash" within the American segment of Western civilization.

62 posted on 08/30/2002 7:20:06 AM PDT by Noumenon
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To: dennisw
Gramscian Marxist bump
63 posted on 09/04/2002 9:10:58 AM PDT by Noumenon
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To: Tokhtamish
The Right won the culture wars. It is the Cultural Left that has been reduced to college towns, Greenwich Village, and the San Francisco Bay area.

Wow. Please back this statement up.

64 posted on 09/04/2002 9:18:02 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Noumenon
Great post, thank you.
65 posted on 09/04/2002 9:30:05 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Tokhtamish
The Right won the culture wars.

But Huntington doesn't have in mind only Left and Right dihotomy. As it always was in history, it's also East and West. Your screen name is a good example, Khan Tokhtamish.

66 posted on 09/09/2002 4:27:51 AM PDT by Neophyte
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To: Neophyte
Clash of civilizations bump
67 posted on 09/13/2002 8:15:17 AM PDT by Noumenon
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To: Under the Radar
VDH bump
68 posted on 09/16/2002 7:42:41 PM PDT by Noumenon
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To: Noumenon
Yes, let's keep this important thread bumped up!
69 posted on 09/17/2002 9:16:46 PM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Victoria Delsoul
It is clear that in one way or another it is the American culture, which dominates, or attempts to dominate the rest of the word. The result will be an Americanized world far away from extinction.

My biggest concern is that the American culture that's been dominating the world isn't Traditional American Culture at all, but American Pop Culture: Mickey Mouse, Big Macs, Madonna, Hollywood films, etc.

Traditional American Culture is an entirely different thing: Liberty, property, Puritan work ethic, rule of law, rugged individualism, personal responsibility, etc. Not only do I not see us largely exporting these things, but I see us discarding them ourselves.

I'm only in my mid-30s, but I remember a different America in my youth. No one locked their doors, a man's word was his bond, schools actually taught and disciplined students, etc.

Our national character has changed. The character of our immigrants has changed. They don't respect us or their new homeland, and one reason I think they don't is because we don't stand for the same principals we used to.

70 posted on 09/18/2002 12:17:16 AM PDT by schmelvin
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To: Under the Radar
Too bad Durant isn't standard reading in our schools, as it is in our house:
"The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without and multiplying from within."
--Will Durant, The Story of Civilization

It's worth stating again that the barbarians are already inside the gate - they're the heirs and disciples of Antonio Gramsci, and they dominate the educational and cultural scene. With everything that implies.

71 posted on 09/25/2002 8:27:08 AM PDT by Noumenon
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To: The Toad
The bottom line is, world conversion to Islam would be regression in human civilization. I don't really think God wants that and when He deems it to be time He will see to it that the West prevails.

I understand that the other side believes the same thing so we have to choose - you can believe that a culture that hates its enemies more than it loves its own children is superior or that we are.
72 posted on 09/25/2002 8:34:59 AM PDT by Let's Roll
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To: Let's Roll
Clash of civilizations bump
73 posted on 01/20/2003 6:01:33 PM PST by Noumenon
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To: Noumenon
To put it another way we are no longer a "people." We are in he process of becoming 300 million isolated little atoms.
74 posted on 01/20/2003 6:09:15 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: Noumenon
bump......thanks for the post.
75 posted on 01/20/2003 6:16:04 PM PST by Lady Eileen
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