Hemp trade nipped in the bud

The San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Sunday, August 25, 2002 | David Armstrong

[Willie Green]

Something like that is working now.
It's called 'asset forfeiture', and it helps build Socialism in innumerable ways. ;^)

That's why I proposed letting the private sector and free enterprise lay claim to the assets.
Don't want a bureaucratic Government overstepping its authority!

[AndyJackson]

The benign uses of hemp have all been superceded by the technological development of superior alternatives

If that were true then we wouldn't need government bureaucrats to deal with this problem. The free market would.

[Willie Green]

Are you also going to apologise to the rest of us constitutional conservatives who also hold that this is a useless and dangerous abuse of government power, but who resent your slanderous druggie label.

I'm a step ahead of you, Andy.
Keep reading...
I just proposed letting the private sector take care of the dirty work!!!

[wienerdog.com]

You never get to see these morons hang themselves. He's gonna change the subject now.

[Ohioan]

I would certainly agree with those who believe that this has an element of the "tale wagging the dog," as it relates to limiting the availability of the best natural rope products. It is a bit goofy to deny productive Americans a good source of good rope, just because some goof-ball may want to smoke it. There must be a better way to fight narcotic addiction than this.

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[cinFLA]

I alway's laugh(politely) when someone touts the superior technical advancements and replacements for basic, simple, materials and equipment. I have several machine sheds of such advanced equipment. It's usually broken and waiting for imported spare parts which are nowhere to be found. My 1953 Ford Tractor with 17,000 hours on the block, and my small baler made in 1966 is cheaper and more reliable to run. The radio on my 53 ford lasted about a year. Tires lasted maybe 12k miles. A car with 100k miles was a rarity; now is common. My 1953 computer slide kept falling out during caculations. My 1953 TV needed a new tube a week.

[headsonpikes]

So, if I understand you correctly...(public vs. private)

Sheriff of Nottingham bad...

Jesse James good?

Somehow, this doesn't sound right, Willie; you must be channelling Eleanor R. again. ;^)

[bat-boy]

Why even bother to respond? This guy obviously has some form of mental retardation.

[wienerdog.com]

Just bored, is all. I guess I'll go get something to eat. I get a kick out of picturing what these nuts look like behind their computers. It's like watching the Simpsons.

[Willie Green]

I would certainly agree with those who believe that this has an element of the "tale wagging the dog," as it relates to limiting the availability of the best natural rope products. It is a bit goofy to deny productive Americans a good source of good rope,

Actually, for general use, manila (from abaca fiber) is the strongest, best quality natural fiber rope available. Sisal is also good, but its strength is about 20% less. Jute and cotton are also natural fiber ropes that are available. Like hemp, their strength is only about 50% that of manila. So we really don't "lose" anything by not having hemp rope available. Better substitutes exist, even among natural fibers.

[AndyJackson]

I'm talking about making the WOD self-sufficient with higher fines. Maybe we can even make it more efficient by deregulating and privatizing this facet of law enforcement.

How can you have higher fines than the asset forfeiture laws we already have? I am amazed at fatuaous fools like yourself who think that a private corporation with its hand in the public purse is somehow preferable to an operation run by public employees. Prisons are already privatized - which, believe it or not has not lowered the costs of running a jail.

[Willie Green]

I get a kick out of picturing what these nuts look like behind their computers. It's like watching the Simpsons.

Well, I suppose that's a step-up from Teletubbies.

[wienerdog.com]

You flatter yourself.

Were you going to answer any of my questions?

[Willie Green]

So, if I understand you correctly...(public vs. private)
Sheriff of Nottingham bad...
Jesse James good?

Well the analogy is a little off...
And Robinhood is the one who's associated with the Sheriff of Nottingham...
But since Jesse James is sometimes loosely regarded as an American Robinhood, I think we can give you partial credit.

Attaboy!!!

[KDD]

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5081&wtm_format=wide

[wienerdog.com]

More people are smoking corn, soybeans and hay? That's weird.

[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

I think you missed the point.

[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

The market has already reacted and the demand for industrial hemp HAS dried up. Advocates are merely interested in burning the dry hemp so they can inhale the smoke.

Willie, I hereby accuse you of either 1) being a troll, 2) being drunk/high/stoned, or 3) being really, really, really, really stupid (as in sub 70 IQ). I suspect you are simply trolling. Everything you say is either a logical fallacy, completely untrue, or so moronic that not even official government apologists for the drug war would resort to your "logic".

In the above example of sterling stupidity, the market has not "reacted" because there is no free market in hemp, as there cannot be when its cultivation here is illegal. That's like saying, during the height of Prohibition, that "the market had spoken" against single malt Scotch, because no one could afford the real thing that was smuggled into the country (except the very rich).

And in his second example of stupidity, Willie once again ignores the fact that this industrial hemp contains no significant traces of THC: smoke as much as you can, you'll never get high. So it is simply a fallacy to argue that advocates of industrial hemp are trying to legalize industrial hemp so they can get high off of it. It's a physical impossibility, which makes me wonder 1) how stupid you think we are, or 2) how stupid you are.

I don't think you are stupid, Willie; I think this entire thread is a very, very sick joke on your part. Please spare us the bandwidth and fess up.

[apochromat]

So, creation produced one too many plants for natural fiber and oil, you feel. Less variety in natural fibers and oils makes you feel better.

[Willie Green]

Please spare us the bandwidth and fess up.

I already confessed to weikel back in reply #35 when he discovered my true identity.
My superiors in the Illuminati assigned me the task of creating a diversion while they consolidate their monopoly of the global hemp market.